jackjack
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| 22 Jan 2007 04:57 |
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| I am a romanychal in usa who is of english descent.my ancestors came to america around the middle 1800's. i can trace back to the first one's in america but not over in england. this question has been posed i bet many times so please over look me. all i have are surname's and was wondering if maybe someone could help me find maybe distant cousins that i have there..my direct family names and ancestors were... pearce, stanley, lee, smith, wells,boswell, harrison, jeffery...does anyone on here who shares same surnames know if any of your ancestors people came to america around this time...thank you and this is a wonderful site as i have enjoyed it very much..jack pearce |
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lsa47
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| 22 Jan 2007 10:21 |
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hello jack, all those names are familuar,im sure quite a few of the guys on here will put you in the right direction,welcome to the site ,ENJOY! |
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matty
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| 23 Jan 2007 00:37 |
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Hi Jack some stanleys and Bucklands and Wells went to the USA in fact they went back and forth several times in the mid 1800s
also some coopers and smith they all married into one another,the Buckland or Buckley line from Devon and Somerset and the Stanleys from Hampshire you
can find some info on them on the Ellis Island site they travelled on the ship the Carpathia just type in Nelson Buckley/Buckland or Plato and Betsy Wells matty. |
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jackjack
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| 23 Jan 2007 03:30 |
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my mom is a stanley and i think they came by way of canada...but in dayton ohio there is a cemetary where my mom and dad's people are buried. no one uses it anymore that i know of but for a great many romanys in america that is where we traceour ancestors
some tell the name of the town in england where they were born and yes there are buckland and joles along with the names i gave.
i am what is called in america southern romanychal i guess cause we live in the south...lol...but as far as i know i am not related to any northern romanys except the wells. stanley and harrison is a very common name but i have yet to find anything linking us..but i am sure if i can find a way to trace back to the old country it will all come to light..i thank all of you very much.
p.s. the reason i mentioned going thru canada is because many chored across the border so there is no official record.
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matty
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| 23 Jan 2007 08:54 |
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Jack dont know if they may be your kin but
Nelson Buckland b 1856 in usa(they went back and forth until 1900s)
married Betsy Smith
he was the son of Thenant Buckland and Keziah Smith
on the ships log it said they were going to stay in Daytona Ohio with an aunt or sister Betsy Wells on his headstone Nelson died 1908.
nelsons son Jamie b 1887 married Phoebe Stanley she was the daughter of
James and Unity((mary)Stanley
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jackjack
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| 23 Jan 2007 17:33 |
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| thanks matty for your help...betsy wells is relation ...most of her and nelson buckland's people mostly live in macon georgia now..
thanks for the help matty...i appreciate it |
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bang30
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| 30 Jan 2007 23:08 |
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| hiya jackjack..welcome |
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bang30
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| 08 Feb 2007 22:52 |
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| hi all, just thought id show ya see this, ..its a interesting read'
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. www.paulpolansky.nstemp.com/gypsies.htm |
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bang30
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| 08 Feb 2007 22:57 |
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(show ya see this) ..im talking like rain man again!! |
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valerierackly
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| 09 Feb 2007 10:24 |
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| I read the Paul polanski web sit. I thought it was a good and plain talking article. I thought it was very well researched and put together. |
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bang30
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| 09 Feb 2007 15:30 |
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what was interesting was how he was saying.
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.(quote) "But to be honest, there are no real Romany left today. My mother was not allowed to wash the women’s clothes with the men’s; where you made your food, you were not allowed to dry your clothes. These were some of the old traditions. But today the young Romany have forgotten our traditions, our culture, our language, in their struggle to survive."
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. we was talking about this type of thing on here!! ..it seems Gipsies every were are loosing there old ways?
i think its sad''..but something Gipsies every were have in common..
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valerierackly
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| 10 Feb 2007 23:39 |
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I dont wash my clothes with my other half's, the either get done seperate or sent to the wash-house.
Come to think about it I seperate a lot of things I never realised I did. |
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valerierackly
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| 10 Feb 2007 23:50 |
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Rading that has also made me think that some of those trible traits are here within the gypsys of today. If I think about it I know of other familys and my own and I can see the some of those traditions,even if watered down with time and inter-marriage. I can identify some of those traditions and ideals within people Gypsy/ travellers that I have met.
They're not as lost as we think, Its just that we're mixing with people whos traditions are not the same as ours more now. its not very long ago that a young man would only marry a young woman from certain group of families. Marrying the wrong/different family wasn't allowed. |
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bang30
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| 12 Feb 2007 00:39 |
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me dad had a pakistani friend in a garage and he told me dad that his words were from a certain part of india?
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iv talked with indians and they thought i spoke funny rummness but i always said well so do you lol..
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.i always wonder how gypsy from all over the world will always speak around the same amount of rummness..and they say that they loose a lot of words but most Gipsies from other countries remember the same words?
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like beng,danyas, bal., mass, and so on? ..i wonder is there any Gipsies in Europe that pronounce words like they still do in india?..
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Cj Eastwood
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| 12 Feb 2007 22:11 |
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Hi Bang : )
With many Anglo-Roms we change an 'a' to an 'o'. i.e
Yog (Yag), pog (Pag), yok (yak), gorja (gaje), lolo (lalo), kom (kam), bori (bari), Pobble (Pabai), kosh (kasht), Bok (baxt), posh (pash).
The older grandparents didn't all use the 'o', as can be seen in the Welsh dialect which would've been what was spoken in England.
Panjabi words are; ag (fire), ak (eye) aka (eyes), Pen (sister), anda (in), Pra (brother), kala (black m), Kali (black f), lal (Red).
So much is the same. |
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tiggi
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| 04 Jan 2008 23:05 |
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Hi JackJack
i hope you see this I am your cousin from England I am related to Bessie Buckland/ Wells married Nelson Wells related to old man Izzy Wells
I have lots of cousins for you to get in touch with all the names you mentioned i can accept and a few more so please get in touch I don't know if we are allowed to post email addies but will do it hope you see it sierra295@hotmail.com |
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