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Jayjay
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| 22 Sep 2008 15:03 |
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| wow real clean and perfect lines Ebert, not easy i know as i try my hand at decorating small fire stools that i make so to help me practice my scroll painting skills but i am way way away from your standard. Thank you so much for sharing with us your pics |
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Smith
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| 30 Sep 2008 05:15 |
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| Some romanie familys did hit the water like you say ronnie woods people way back took to walter i no ron and his family as we was from the same part of the country most of his people married in to gorgie familys on the boats we grow up down the same street his family the romani side come fom wales where alot of travellers settled atfer there long journey from there mother country some travellers took to the walter some took to the fairs and circus with the show folk while the rest stuck with tere own old ways of travilling on the road kussti bok to you all john |
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Cris P
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| 14 Oct 2008 07:28 |
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Hi there. I thought I'd join in this topic cos I live on a boat with my family !
We call ourselves boaties, rather than bargees. A barge is a wide boat, not a narrow boat. Noone calls themselves a bargee unless they've got a big barge. There have always been barges in England but they tended to be on rivers and estuaries, and wouldn't fit down most canals, tho' there are exceptions.
There's definitely similarities in life and living between boat and vardo, especially on the old working boats with the small back cabins, which were about the same size as a vardo. The rest of the boat was of course a hold filled with cargo. Now there's not so much cargo, and the cabin's a lot bigger !
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lenac
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| 18 Apr 2009 10:08 |
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| Alwasy fancied a barge home or a moored boat kinda thing but would imagine very few around ? |
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Nonrom
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| 19 Apr 2009 07:51 |
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| I would also love a barge home well i can dream !! |
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rawny
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| 19 Apr 2009 17:17 |
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| iv never been on a barge , wouldnt like to live on one but wouldnt mind a a trip on one |
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cathayb
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| 21 Apr 2009 17:05 |
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| he he i lived on one when i was a teenager.it was on the river avon in saltfod nr.bath.what fun it was going through the locks and things but i wasnt over fussy in those days and it wouldnt do for me now adays.i like my lovely chalet!!!!!but there are numerous barge folk around stratford on avon moors loads and here in bridgwater we have a fair few.my barge was on the avon but most are kept on the old canels that have been reopened.they are very colourful and the folk take as much pride in keeping them up to scratch as we do of our living vans.not a speack of dust and all highly polished and often a dear little jack russel to run behind or infront of the barge!its great to talk to the folk.i have traced quite a few barge gypsies lines down here from bridgwater up country.whether they were roms or not i dont know but some married into the romany lock family i do know that.intersting subject!!!! |
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rawny
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| 22 Apr 2009 06:33 |
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| there was alot of barge people where i used to live in cheshire ,lots of canals , i used down by where they where and they are always friendly |
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hazel20
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| 02 Aug 2009 03:15 |
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| I must admit I have always fancied living on a barge boat in a nice quiet place somewhere but is that still possible now a adays? how do you get permission etc? |
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Ivan
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| 29 Nov 2009 08:39 |
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Hi
In answer to the original question; here is a quote from 'The English Gypsy Caravan-C.H.Ward and Denis E Harvey'
"Both narrow boat and caravan are the homes of travelling people and are characteristicly decorated; both were horse drawn, the inmates of each swarthy lovers of bright colour. We ourselves thought they might have a common denominator in the towns of the great horse fairs early in the last century"
Im glad I found this topic here because I have been wondering the same thing. My great great grandfather lived on a boat/barge in the Kent area and Im trying to find out more about his family. His sir name was Lukes, I know there are famous and less famous gypsy names, would this sir name ring a bell with anyone, incidently?
Sincerely
Ivan
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Ivan
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| 29 Nov 2009 14:36 |
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| Further more, would it still be possible to travel the canal's of England in a horse drawn barge? Or are the canal sides no longer conducive to horses??? |
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JON
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| 30 Dec 2009 20:08 |
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| Hi there I'm jon and i live on my narrowboats, I'm trying to put up some traditional castle's and roses to show you that are in still intact on my boat after she sunk in 2007, but i don't know how to import them? I'll find out and post some , sorry but I'm not good on these computers.Ahh think I've just sussed it! I've also got some traditional "rockingham" treacle glaze pottery from the old working boats and will try and put up pics. some of its from the 1800's.heres one of me boat for now I'll upload the rest when ive sussed it out. |
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JON
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| 30 Dec 2009 20:19 |
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| Hello Ivan,
No In fact its illegal.The main problem is other boats moored up alongside the canal towpath.The montgomery canal still has a horse drawn barge but Its a landlocked canal.British waterways have put up too many "safety" barriers to stop motorbikes too! |
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JON
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| 06 Jan 2010 18:51 |
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| I was thinking of the mon and brec when i said landlocked, but they do both have shire pulled narrowboats |
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Ivan
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| 31 Jan 2010 10:58 |
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Thankyou Jon
Thats a shame they are illegal. Still good to know there are a couple of places you can still use them.
I think the human population needs reducing so that old ways can still exist. Too many cars on the roads, too many motor bikes on the canals...lol
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JON
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| 04 Feb 2010 17:13 |
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| HELO IVAN, MY HAND MY HEART I REACH TOWARDS YOU. |
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JON
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| 04 Feb 2010 17:15 |
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| I'VE A LOVELY WAGGON FOR SALE IF YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED SHE'S A REAL BEAUTY? |
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JON
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| 04 Feb 2010 17:22 |
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| A LOVELY LITTLE WAGGON FOR THE ROMANY RACE, GO TO EBAY AND LOOK ON GYPSY WAGGONS JONBOY 224 I LOVE MY OWN PEOPLE XXX |
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Ivan
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| 08 Feb 2010 15:10 |
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Thanks Jon.
"When Im in Russia Im Ivan, when Im in England Im Jon" hehe remember that?
Anyway, I couldent find you on ebay. I'll have another try.
Dont think I could afford a gypsy waggon right now though anyhow!
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JON
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| 24 Feb 2010 08:20 |
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| IVAN I CAN'T WORK THIS SITE? I can't work this bloody site its ridiculous. Anyway hello , I've got some lovely wooden Russian gypsy ware, they look like they were machine printed they are so perfect voluminous oranges and pinks on black wooden ware,they are not for sale and I've got some lovely Spanish ware too thats aluminium black with basic tulips etc, they are not for sale any of them but I love them loads. |
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Jayjay
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| 09/22/2008 3:03 PM |
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| wow real clean and perfect lines Ebert, not easy i know as i try my hand at decorating small fire stools that i make so to help me practice my scroll painting skills but i am way way away from your standard. Thank you so much for sharing with us your pics |
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Smith
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| 09/30/2008 5:15 AM |
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| Some romanie familys did hit the water like you say ronnie woods people way back took to walter i no ron and his family as we was from the same part of the country most of his people married in to gorgie familys on the boats we grow up down the same street his family the romani side come fom wales where alot of travellers settled atfer there long journey from there mother country some travellers took to the walter some took to the fairs and circus with the show folk while the rest stuck with tere own old ways of travilling on the road kussti bok to you all john |
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Cris P
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| 10/14/2008 7:28 AM |
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Hi there. I thought I'd join in this topic cos I live on a boat with my family !
We call ourselves boaties, rather than bargees. A barge is a wide boat, not a narrow boat. Noone calls themselves a bargee unless they've got a big barge. There have always been barges in England but they tended to be on rivers and estuaries, and wouldn't fit down most canals, tho' there are exceptions.
There's definitely similarities in life and living between boat and vardo, especially on the old working boats with the small back cabins, which were about the same size as a vardo. The rest of the boat was of course a hold filled with cargo. Now there's not so much cargo, and the cabin's a lot bigger !
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lenac
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| 04/18/2009 10:08 AM |
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| Alwasy fancied a barge home or a moored boat kinda thing but would imagine very few around ? |
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Nonrom
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| 04/19/2009 7:51 AM |
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| I would also love a barge home well i can dream !! |
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rawny
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| 04/19/2009 5:17 PM |
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| iv never been on a barge , wouldnt like to live on one but wouldnt mind a a trip on one |
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cathayb
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| 04/21/2009 5:05 PM |
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| he he i lived on one when i was a teenager.it was on the river avon in saltfod nr.bath.what fun it was going through the locks and things but i wasnt over fussy in those days and it wouldnt do for me now adays.i like my lovely chalet!!!!!but there are numerous barge folk around stratford on avon moors loads and here in bridgwater we have a fair few.my barge was on the avon but most are kept on the old canels that have been reopened.they are very colourful and the folk take as much pride in keeping them up to scratch as we do of our living vans.not a speack of dust and all highly polished and often a dear little jack russel to run behind or infront of the barge!its great to talk to the folk.i have traced quite a few barge gypsies lines down here from bridgwater up country.whether they were roms or not i dont know but some married into the romany lock family i do know that.intersting subject!!!! |
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rawny
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| 04/22/2009 6:33 AM |
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| there was alot of barge people where i used to live in cheshire ,lots of canals , i used down by where they where and they are always friendly |
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hazel20
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| 08/02/2009 3:15 AM |
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| I must admit I have always fancied living on a barge boat in a nice quiet place somewhere but is that still possible now a adays? how do you get permission etc? |
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Ivan
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| 11/29/2009 8:39 AM |
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Hi
In answer to the original question; here is a quote from 'The English Gypsy Caravan-C.H.Ward and Denis E Harvey'
"Both narrow boat and caravan are the homes of travelling people and are characteristicly decorated; both were horse drawn, the inmates of each swarthy lovers of bright colour. We ourselves thought they might have a common denominator in the towns of the great horse fairs early in the last century"
Im glad I found this topic here because I have been wondering the same thing. My great great grandfather lived on a boat/barge in the Kent area and Im trying to find out more about his family. His sir name was Lukes, I know there are famous and less famous gypsy names, would this sir name ring a bell with anyone, incidently?
Sincerely
Ivan
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Ivan
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| 11/29/2009 2:36 PM |
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| Further more, would it still be possible to travel the canal's of England in a horse drawn barge? Or are the canal sides no longer conducive to horses??? |
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JON
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| 12/30/2009 8:08 PM |
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| Hi there I'm jon and i live on my narrowboats, I'm trying to put up some traditional castle's and roses to show you that are in still intact on my boat after she sunk in 2007, but i don't know how to import them? I'll find out and post some , sorry but I'm not good on these computers.Ahh think I've just sussed it! I've also got some traditional "rockingham" treacle glaze pottery from the old working boats and will try and put up pics. some of its from the 1800's.heres one of me boat for now I'll upload the rest when ive sussed it out. |
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JON
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| 12/30/2009 8:19 PM |
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| Hello Ivan,
No In fact its illegal.The main problem is other boats moored up alongside the canal towpath.The montgomery canal still has a horse drawn barge but Its a landlocked canal.British waterways have put up too many "safety" barriers to stop motorbikes too! |
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JON
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| 01/06/2010 6:51 PM |
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| I was thinking of the mon and brec when i said landlocked, but they do both have shire pulled narrowboats |
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Ivan
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| 01/31/2010 10:58 AM |
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Thankyou Jon
Thats a shame they are illegal. Still good to know there are a couple of places you can still use them.
I think the human population needs reducing so that old ways can still exist. Too many cars on the roads, too many motor bikes on the canals...lol
Ivan |
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JON
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| 02/04/2010 5:13 PM |
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| HELO IVAN, MY HAND MY HEART I REACH TOWARDS YOU. |
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JON
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| 02/04/2010 5:15 PM |
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| I'VE A LOVELY WAGGON FOR SALE IF YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED SHE'S A REAL BEAUTY? |
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JON
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| 02/04/2010 5:22 PM |
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| A LOVELY LITTLE WAGGON FOR THE ROMANY RACE, GO TO EBAY AND LOOK ON GYPSY WAGGONS JONBOY 224 I LOVE MY OWN PEOPLE XXX |
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Ivan
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| 02/08/2010 3:10 PM |
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Thanks Jon.
"When Im in Russia Im Ivan, when Im in England Im Jon" hehe remember that?
Anyway, I couldent find you on ebay. I'll have another try.
Dont think I could afford a gypsy waggon right now though anyhow!
Thankyou
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JON
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| 02/24/2010 8:20 AM |
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| IVAN I CAN'T WORK THIS SITE? I can't work this bloody site its ridiculous. Anyway hello , I've got some lovely wooden Russian gypsy ware, they look like they were machine printed they are so perfect voluminous oranges and pinks on black wooden ware,they are not for sale and I've got some lovely Spanish ware too thats aluminium black with basic tulips etc, they are not for sale any of them but I love them loads. |
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