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Shinari
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| 26 Oct 2007 11:16 |
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I was just thinking that we have a forum on Spirituality and Shamanism, and it makes me wonder... "It would very nice to know what other people understand about Shamanism."
What is Shamanism to you?
Want to give a try at answering how you understand Shamanism, specially from a Romani perspective? :) |
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Shinari
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| 09 Nov 2007 20:23 |
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Hehe, I think many things will never be explained... I hope it stays that way. lol
Yeah, Poca. I hear what ya saying and I agree that Shamanism is linked to understanding Earth around us. This includes both the spiritual and physical world around us too.
My mother is known as a Chovihani and even though she is Christian today, she still follows much of what she calls her "brujeria". No matter what culture you follow, it is hard to escape who you are. lol
I see my mother calling many things "brujeria" (I guess the best way to translate that would be "witchery"?). Her brujeria is when she mixes herbs and roots to heal. When she creates her fruit smoothie concoctions lol. When she is studying a patient to find their ailment.
Basically, when my mother is tapping into her role as a Chovihani, she is calling it brujeria. She often says it with tongue in cheek, but I know that she is very serious about it. The results are phenomenal. I have worked with her to heal terminal cancers, depression, ulcers and tumors, etc. I believe my mother can pretty much heal just about anything... but this is her son talking and I can be bias. ;)
My mother gives full credit to the healings to God. She has worked in Miami and there is much Santeria going on there. She has often had people bring in their candles and chickens, but my mother says, "This has nothing to do with your Santeria. I will not work with them, and if you feel uncomfortable about that, you are free to find someone else." She is very polite and courteous of course.
My mother heals equipped with the knowledge of the spiritual and physical laws of nature. With the knowledge of God. And most importantly, with the love, wisdom and sacrifice to care for the living universe around us. Both Gadje and Roma. And this is pretty much the beginning of the path of Shamanism. There are other ways to explain it, of course. But this will suffice. :)
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Victor
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| 10 Nov 2007 14:33 |
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| My dear Pocahontas, this what you say is very true, because as a Romano/Gypsy I saw how my grand mother used to cure small children with her herbs,and also some times people used to come to her house to ask for advice about a sickness, but today in my clan, everything is diffrent, even a slite cold makes them go to see their doctor, and i think it is a very right thing to do, science in medicine, has never been soo good in all of history of our world mirecles are done every day in hospitals, that is why our world today is over populated because of every 10 people 7 are cured and the statistics say that the standared of life is very high people live longer, then any time in the history of mankind, I know about the mystirious cures, but if you ask me today, I will not use any type of herbs, unless my doctor tells me too.Victor. |
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Dj Rama
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| 15 Nov 2007 19:43 |
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Greetings Great Souls....
Bin a long time... But just the wink of eye...
Ah what is shamanism... Yes much of it can not be explained, because it dwells within a world where there is no concepts. You see words create concepts... we conceptualize this world with words.. and our words always fall short of the true reality... We instead impose our illusions on this world, and miss this whole miracle we call life.....
Miracles happen every second.. everytime some one breathes there is a miracle... People want a great miracle, but forget that life itself is the greatest of miracles...
Tapping into this energy is what is being a shaman.. To be centered in ourselves, open to the universe, in love with ourselves and this universe, allowing this energy to flow and listening to the language of life, the language of God... Through this all is revealed.
We are all spiritual beings... There is no one that is more spiritual than someone else... It is up to you to choose if you are a spiritual being having a human experience, or a human being having a spiritual experience... It is up to you to abandon your illusions of yourself and live in your Reality... And all you have to do is breathe....
You see even though the Hospitals will treat a disease and very Well, they will not heal you... How many times do you see a person come out of the hospital and go back to their same old habits?! How many doctors will know how to treat your deppression and worry (truely without a DRUG!!!)? We know that 80% of all our illnesses come from stress... Will they show you how to meditate free yourself from yourself? Some sicknesses are beyond the physical level, and that is why we have shamans.. Chovihano(i)s.. Illness comes from many levels, and you go to the physician that will treat that particular imbalance..
We sometimes forget within all the internal chatter, that we have the most precious gift... Life
Nature is our Mother, She is the living word of God... So just listen to life and all the mysteries will be open to you... It is sad that folks have lost their trust in our mother... that we do not listen anymore! or... is it that all she does is cry because her children have taken all her bounty and they have abandoned her, no longer listening, afraid of her healing herbs, afraid of her power... and they should BE! for she will caste away your illusions and you will have to wait in darkness for how many more lives! USE YOUR TIME WISELY!!! WAKE UP!
you can all be the shaman.. it is already within you.. you set your own limitations
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Victor
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| 20 Nov 2007 14:24 |
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| My dear friend Rama,I some times don't understand you, you are preaching what was a century or two ago, well I believe in our spirit, that our lord has given us, but God says that God helps those who helps them selves, these herbs, the scienties transfer them in pills or injections which cure more suficiently, now stress is a sickness of the mind, which you youself that causes it, yes we need God to help us, but we have a thing that the spirit gives us it is called the will power, this will power can make miricles come through, with out medicines, but unfortunately not all of us can controle our will power, the secret to this will power, is only you alone can controle, what I am talking about is not about mind sickness but sickness as a whole, my people the Roma/Gypsy rarely go to do a check up,even when they are rich! most of them believe, that these new medecines of the gaje, will not cure them, this is what I call ignorence, this is one reason that the statistics say that the Roma/Gypsies have a very short life, if you compare them to gaje! in Europe they rarely pass the fifty year mark, and i don't mean only the poor,I must try to put this reality into their heads, to see a dotor once in a year at least, this might change all this sufferings of my people. Victor |
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Dj Rama
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| 22 Nov 2007 14:05 |
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Greetings Victor....
I understand what you say.. and I know that modern medicine has its advantages and I am not discrediting it, I have benefited from them at times, but I see it as treatment of a disease and not complete healing... Still, I am not preaching.. I live by this. And it is as real now as it was 10,000 years ago.. I will not take a pill unless I absolutely nead to... you see even though scientists extract the active ingredients from the plant world they take away a part from the whole of which God has created... How can a creation of Man surpass that of God? It is only in our illussion... Science will understand this with time... Man may have forgotten how to use this healing power that is in each of us... Even Jesus would heal through that power, he did not give pills... Do you think that we cannot harness that power? We set our own limitations... And what does it mater if we live long if the quality of our life is no good? Everything has its advantages and disadvantages...
For me healing involves the whole self.. Mind , body and spirit.. not just body, not just mind... So in order to heal, truely heal, yourself you must work on all levels.... and yes it is something that we choose for ourselves... The Shaman always brings out that power that we already have within us.. We just forget most of the time.. and the shaman always lives within this awareness or invokation... The power of this life is very real... And it has not changed since the begining of time.. We can still live within this awareness.. Remeber the same way doctors have cured with miraculous outcomes... so has the shaman.. So the Shaman should not be discredited as should the doctor... they all have their place in this big human Clan...
There are many ignorant people on all sides of the coin... if people want to get all wrapped up in the details, and are too proud to humble themselves, they will miss the whole.. It is not for me to preach to them, that is why I say that I don't preach... If people want to live in Ignorance... I don't realy care.. I will live my life in truth, every breath at a time... I encourage people to step outside of their box and experience truth.. It is definitely foolish to not accept the wonders of the medical world.. at the same time it is foolish to not accept the wonders of the spiritual world... We may heal our body, but it is just a vehichle that we will have to give up at our own time... Ans if we don't find our true self, our spirit soul, the source of our life... The consept of ourself will die with the body.
If you have not experienced this power, that is available to you at all times.. I encourage you to look within yourself to find it... It is never too late, you are never to old or too young... God will reveal the truth... If you surrender to it...
I am speaking not from a book or simple belief.. I am speaking through experience... And I will not deny my experience...
Ja Devlessa
Rama
PS- I am not trying to prove a point .... I acknowlege the truths that you have spoken... even if I may not fully understand... that is why we are here... always learning... You have a lot to teach, my brother.. and I am willing to listen, but I will not discredit what has been revealed to me through experience... The same as you should not... te aves baxtalo... ONE LOVE
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Victor
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| 22 Nov 2007 15:00 |
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| My dear Dj, Rama, you say that you don't care about those roma/Gypsies who are ignorent, I am not trying to, change your believes, you must understand that I am trying to chamge the lives of those Roma/Gpsy,who are even afraid to pass near a hospital, for being to ignorent,nobody wants to discredid you my brother, you believe in your expirience, and I respect you for it, I must say again, that I care for those ignorent Roma/Gypsies, it is about time for them to be in the family of the world,and disfruet the wonders of today, whether it is medicine or anything, else! what I want is for my people to live longer,be more modern, give education to their children, be usefull to the society where they are located, forget the hate for the gaje , and I am sure the gaje will do like wise, enough is enough, Victor |
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Dj Rama
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| 22 Nov 2007 21:29 |
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Opa! I couldn't agree with you more...
"what I want is for my people to live longer,be more modern, give education to their children, be usefull to the society where they are located, forget the hate for the gaje , and I am sure the gaje will do like wise, enough is enough,"
I understand fully what you are saying... people perpetuate this hate, and it must end, cause no one can judge another based on race... I would much rather look into ones eyes to know who they are... You see there are some that don't want to change, they will fight for their illussions... and you can find those everywhere Gypsy, Gadje, Black, White, Yellow, Red Everyone!!!... ...
Thank you for caring Victor... In this way you are a shaman....
Devlessa Pral
Rama
PS- It's not that I don't care (I can be harsh at times), it's just that I can't stop for anyone... If they don't want to change I must continue my drom with my eyes to the horizon....This is my journey... I am not here to preach, I am here to live and teach by example.... I pray that all this hate will be droped at this very moment.. for Life is too prescious to waste on foolishness.... |
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Dj Rama
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| 22 Nov 2007 22:07 |
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Lets get off the subject of Romani and Gadje...
Why is this seperation so important?
... If we are all becoming aware of our true self, why should we make more seperations, more illussions? Yes thousands of years of tradition... We fight for this tradition and Honor, Our Pride that can hurt us... Come on! Give me a break, I feal sorry for all those you have become victims of outdated traditions and old grudges! And you can find them everywhere, in every culture.. no one is an exception because it is within each of us to overcome our own demons.
If we are dealing with Shamanism and spirituality, we MUST REALIZE THAT EVRYTHING IN THIS WORLD IS SPIRITUAL. THE TRUTH BELONGS TO EVERYTHING.
I have come accross good people in this this world... I love them with all my heart... for Love is limitless... These beautiful people that have been good to me... can I look them in the eye and say that You are this and I am that!!! NO! they are prescious and they are my Family... The Romani Know this! Most Romani I know are like this.. If you are good, you are family!
How important is this on the Road of life?........ The most important....
So can we drop this separation? at least here in this forum... Can we speak from our true self and not worry if we fall within the guidelines? Lets speak freely about what is Shamanism...
What it is to be a master in this life...
What it truely is to communicate with the elements....
How to use this knowledge and wisdom...
YOu all Know.... Don't hide anymore... This time is crucial! SPEAK TO US!
I caste a circle and only allow that which will allow us to progress on our spiritual journey...
I call upon the ancestors, I call upon the Elements, our spirit guides, MIDUVEL..... I ask for Complete awareness of now..
Let us make our sacred space that is beyond the concepts of our mind.
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I know you all are like thinking I'm Crazy.... WHATEVER! what is crazy anyways? tell me....
as long as we are surrendering, sincerely, to the truth there is nothing we can do to that won't get us closer to the definition of Shamanism....
Haleluyah!
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Victor
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| 23 Nov 2007 10:34 |
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| My dear DJ Rama, if there would be more people like you,and you say that you are crazy, well my brother, this would be a better world to live in, I see that you believe in your Shamanism, with all your spirit, as I said before, that to believe really with all your heart and Faith,is not for every one, it is like a cause that you can give your life for,I hope with all my heart that you will have success,in your believe, because it teaches nothing else but the truth,as you have said that some of our Roma/Gypsies, are almosy blind to the truth, of the life today, they just don't want to change, and blame others for having a life that is very hard , and make their children also learn from them these bad custums, I cannot stop to try and fight for them, I only pray to God almighty that they will come to their senses, to live a normal life tomorow Ache Develesa, muro pral, Victor |
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Shinari
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| 30 Nov 2007 19:03 |
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Dear Victor,
How's things? I had a little smile on my face when I read: "you are preaching what was a century or two ago". My first thought was, "Is that a problem?" Why try and fix something that was never wrecked? If the old remedies still work, why use modern drugs?
I agree with what you have to say because you speak the facts. However, allow me to add to the facts in the subject we are talking about:
There is much technology that heals millions each year, such as vaccinations, surgeries and so forth. However, we cannot turn a blind eye on how damaging the vast majority of drugs are today in the pharmaceutical market.
Roma in our families do not live for a short time, even though we still implement old remedies. In fact, most of us live over 90 - 100 years of age (my grandma recently passed away at 96, my other grandma is 89 and still very healthy, my wife's grandpa is 110 - I could go on with examples). We live above the standard average age, and still avoid the doctors like the plague!
Just because some Roma have lost the true knowledge of how to use nature to heal, it doesn't mean that all have lost it. Sadly, most Roma HAVE lost their old remedies and traditions and, sadly, many today believe in superstitions rather than facts.
On this note, my mother uses all of her traditional BRUJERIA (herbal magic) to heal today. As my brother, DJ Rama, is aware, there is not much my mother cannot heal. She has healed many cases of cancers (including terminal cancers where patients had days or weeks to live), AIDS, psychological conditions, malaria, typhoid fever, yellow fever, ulcers, etc. I'm sure you get the picture.
The first thing my mother does to heal most patients in the Western world (she works everywhere and therefore there are many different cases) is to take the patients off doctor's drugs and medicines. Why? Because the EYES reveal the secret in the drugs - the drugs cause chemical dependency and death. Anyone who knows about Iridology will understand that when a person who is supposed to have blue eyes, but instead have black eyes - there is a BIG problem! I have seen so many eyes go from darkness to brightness as my mother cleans them from all the drugs that doctors give.
Victor, my friend, I will continue to raise my children using our traditional ways. Our traditional ways work, they are practical and it is what we know best.
I will warn others, however: If you haven't been raised with ALL the essential knowledge and skills to heal, don't do it. You will do more damage than good. Healing others using herbs, nature, and traditional means takes decades to master. It is not something you learn by listening to the almost forgotten tales of your past. |
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Shinari
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| 30 Nov 2007 19:16 |
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Posted By Dj Rama on 22 Nov 2007 14:05
Even Jesus would heal through that power, he did not give pills... Do you think that we cannot harness that power? We set our own limitations... And what does it mater if we live long if the quality of our life is no good? Everything has its advantages and disadvantages...
I love this sentence! I prefer to follow the example of Jesus Christ. That's for sure.
The Shaman always brings out that power that we already have within us.. We just forget most of the time.. and the shaman always lives within this awareness or invokation... The power of this life is very real... And it has not changed since the begining of time.. We can still live within this awareness.. Remeber the same way doctors have cured with miraculous outcomes... so has the shaman.. So the Shaman should not be discredited as should the doctor... they all have their place in this big human Clan...
Again, superb words of wisdom brother.
It is definitely foolish to not accept the wonders of the medical world.. at the same time it is foolish to not accept the wonders of the spiritual world...
And that is the key to my mother's healing ability: God. Spirit. Well said bro!
And I will not deny my experience...
I verify your experience, hermano. I know you, been with you, and have been humbled by your Spirit within. Namaste!
Yo tambien verifico que eres mas loco que la puta mierda, pero me gusta :w00t: |
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Shinari
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| 30 Nov 2007 19:32 |
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Posted By Victor on 22 Nov 2007 15:00
My dear Dj, Rama, you say that you don't care about those roma/Gypsies who are ignorent, I am not trying to, change your believes, you must understand that I am trying to chamge the lives of those Roma/Gpsy,who are even afraid to pass near a hospital, for being to ignorent,nobody wants to discredid you my brother, you believe in your expirience, and I respect you for it, I must say again, that I care for those ignorent Roma/Gypsies, it is about time for them to be in the family of the world,and disfruet the wonders of today, whether it is medicine or anything, else! what I want is for my people to live longer,be more modern, give education to their children, be usefull to the society where they are located, forget the hate for the gaje , and I am sure the gaje will do like wise, enough is enough, Victor
I agree with you too, Don Victor.
Even though I have my own ways, I see the sense and logic in what you speak about and I have, too, seen too many people fall very sick simply because they wouldn't go to the doctor.
This is the way I see it:
You need to know exactly what you are doing to heal in the traditional ways.
To give you an example, this is a very short description of how my mother learned her ways - by the age of 12 she already understood as much about medicine as her father who was a doctor who specialised in endocrinology - by the age of 20 she had a thorough knowledge of natural medicine (what is termed as Naturopathy today and was already specialising in hydrotheraphy, iridology and herbology) - she than began to practice and use her skills with miraculous results - she furthered her studies in her early forties by going to Spain and studying at a Naturopathy institute where she came out with honours of achivement and was immediately permitted to teach (normally those who teach need many years of experience and knowledge, but my mother was already well equipped in her practice) - until recently, she has travelled many Spanish speaking countries healing most cases that conventional doctors give up on.
Okay, that is a very brief illustration of how much study, knowledge, practice and ability you need to even start THINKING about healing seriously. Leave healing to those who know what to do!
So, Victor, the way I see it is that even though we have our own ways, there is much we can agree on. :-) |
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Shinari
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| 30 Nov 2007 20:06 |
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Shamanism, yes, healing using spiritual and natural means is definitely a part of it. But there is a lot more.
Shamans understand that all things are animated by Spirit. Even things that people call "inanimate".
Spirit is in all things, and All things are in Spirit. There is LIFE all around us.
Shamans know themselves and are in a constant state of self knowing. In this way, Shamans have highly developed their emotional intelligence because a Shaman understands how easily feelings and hormones can influence our reality.
Shamans are not limited by the material world, instead, there is a world of infinite possibilities. In this way, the Shaman can achieve and create results where most people see none. This is called a miracle by some, to Shamans it is called common sense.
Shamans are direct vessels of God. Christians would call these type of people - prophets.
I could go on, but I hope that some discussion may sprout from the above points. One thing I need to clarify is that traditional Roma are not superstitious. There are many Roma who believe they are still following the old ways and yet their beliefs are a conglomeration of superstitions - beliefs rooted in ignorance. My mother taught to stay in the Tatcho Romano Drom by teaching that beliefs need to be pragmatically applied. If a belief is not practical - it is useless.
My mother would often point me to other Roma who think they are following the old ways and she would remark, "Those Roma believe that they are following their old ways - and yet their beliefs are full of superstitions and dead traditions. They believe they have so much power and they are so much better than Gadje - why are so poor? If they have so much power and are so much better, why are they so persecuted?"
That lessons was immensely important in my life. I realised that adhering to my mother's wisdom was different to adhering to the so-called wisdom of other Roma tribes. I guarded my ways strongly. My mother would teach me, "People spend huge amounts of money to secure their homes - locks, alarms, guard dogs, fences, screens, etc - and yet, how much protection to they have on their senses? Guard your senses son! Allow God to protect you from lies and deceit."
It is unfortunate that most people believe that the Romani old ways are dead traditions and superstitions. They aren't. Because if our ways ARE superstitions and dead traditions - Why are we doing so well in life? Why are we so healthy? Why are we so happy? Why are we so successful?
The old adage runs true here: You shall know them by their fruit! Look at the "fruit" of various clans and discern for yourself if their ways are true or not.
In the end, there is only one Tatcho Romano Drom. It is the living and life giving traditions of our ancestors. And this includes Shamanism. |
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Victor
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| 03 Dec 2007 16:12 |
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| Shinari, once again you surprise me with your way of thinking, yes we are like a fruit, you can regocnise from far what fruit is noble and what is not.this of course I am refering to our tribes,here in Brasil as well as Russia or any country where Roma/gypsies are located, there are noble tribes, and of course infirier tribes, we the Lovara even have a words for these tribes, for instance, the word Hireshe, means noble , lets say like blue blooded Roma /Gypsies, of course it is only an expression,the Herashe Roma,Gypsies, are usually rich educated and work like the Gaje, the less unfortunate, I don't know how are they called, in Romanes, but one thing is for sure, ignorence is wide spread amongst them,they say usually that the Heresha, Roma are trying to change our Romani culture,But my clan says, you can be rich, and still use your usefull Romani culture , but they unsist that we betrayed them, and avoid us as possible as they can, unless they need a document , or some other aid, if the Heresha can provide, that is why I am in touch with the human rights organisation, to provide them with education, and other importent things, of day to day life, but their style of living, is known to us,I mean the educated Gypsies, sometines I think it is envy, which this world of our , always had, and always will.Victor. |
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Shinari
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| 15 Apr 2008 16:24 |
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I think there are many issues involved in the matter. Yes, it is envy, on both sides.
Our Roma race has gone through a lot of persecution and we have worked really really hard to protect our hearts, our feelings, and this has led many of us to be very defensive and clique against everyone and everything that threatens the very little self-worth that remains.
I think very highly of my Natsia. I have a lot of pride for my culture. A few months ago, one of our most respected Elders in our Natsia gave his life blood, died, so that it may awaken our people! My beloved Natsia, despite how much we have tried to protect our people from the White Supremacist culture of the British Crown, and much as we have tried to protect our culture from the Hatred of this world, have been changed by the pain and hatred... I can't put my finger on these changes, but they are evident in the attitudes of many people on the internet. It is a closeminded mentality that does not see past their own pain, or beliefs.
Our people is not callously tough, or bitter, or afraid. Our people are loving, tender, sweet, and we are a life giving culture and people. We have forgotten much, even in such cultures as our own who have systems to protect our old ways.
Our beloved Elder literally gave his life for his people. It shocked many us. Even me, where I thought I was so open minded and loving... and then his sacrificing energy showed me that I had lost much. I wonder how many people here think they are okay, when all along, we are blind, naked, sick and poor.
It took an act of pure loving sacrifice to show our people that we have much to be held accountable for, for the very problems in our own Roma race.
Will it take Jesus Christ to come down and be sacrificed again to wake up humanity for their loveless state? He would do it again, I know, for such is the love of God. But Jesus Christ does not need to because we have Spirit to guide us in the right way.
It is my hope, as Chovihano of my Clan, to see the love, tenderness and sweetness of our culture to once again shine from our hearts. I pray that the sacrifices made may not be in vain.
(I have not talked about this topic before because there is a three month mourning period where the family member is not spoken about) |
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Shinari
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| 15 Apr 2008 16:47 |
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I did a typo: This, "and be sacrificed again to wake up humanity for their loveless state?" is supposed to say, "and be sacrificed again to wake up humanity FROM their loveless state?"
I thought I should address it 'cause the For and From makes a big difference! Haha! |
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Victor
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| 17 Apr 2008 10:50 |
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| My dear Shinari, I am sorry to say this, but every time, you write you seem to be more complicated, for example what is Natsia, and who died for your cause recently, what do you want to say with this? this time you sound like a real Muslim who sheds his blood and the blood of the innocent, for a cause! as for your Shamanismo, I respect it, but I will tell you something here in Brazil, in the Amazons, there are millions of medical herbs that mostly all foreign counties come to gather these herbs and make medicine from them, for me all pills are transformed from the herbs, I think that almost all educated people know it,I myself use it sometimes, for stomach trouble etc,etc, but I cannot by any means compare the modern medicine, in almost all cases , for example how do you make a by pass of the heart? your herbs won't help in this case, so please next time you write me be more specific, Victor |
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Shinari
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| 17 Apr 2008 18:55 |
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No problems, Victor, I will try and explain myself better.
1. Natsia is a nation. Natsia is a collection of families, and and extended families and tribes/clans. I hope that helps! :)
2. Victor, in all due respect, you have no idea what a real Muslim is, do you?
I was quite shocked to hear these words coming from you, "this time you sound like a real Muslim who sheds his blood and the blood of the innocent, for a cause!"
You are spitting the face of true Muslims if you are comparing them to the Death Cult that has nothing to do with the whole Muslim religion. I see America has done a great job to make Muslims look like Terrorists even in Brasil.
This message is to Muslims: I'm sorry that you had to hear another lie about your beautiful and noble faith.
A message to Victor, you have strongly stood up for human rights and advocating for social justice before, Victor, and yet now you sound no better than a Terrorist... the true Terrorists who create enemies from beautiful people. It hurts me to see you make such an ignorant and hurtful statement to one of the oldest and most respected religions of Earth.
The Muslim people DO NOT shed their blood or the blood of innocent people. That is a small Death Cult, that has been made to be the FACE of true Islam. Islam does not support Terrorism.
3. Who died for my cause recently? Allow me copy and paste what I wrote above... "one of our most respected Elders". He was an Elder. See?
4. I think that modern medicine has its benefits, and so does natural medicine. We have both agreed on this topic before. I don't see why you should try and make an issue of it again.
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Victor, did you get my email? I was asking if it would be okay for you to share some of your articles in my site in the future. It's all good if you don't want to, but I thought I'd ask since you don't know until you ask! :)
I'm proud of all the many different and diverse cultures within the Romani race. And I would like to extend this offer to anyone here. If you have any articles that relate to your culture and life, I'd be most happy to create a place to share it in my site :) My site is all about embracing the beautiful diversity of the Romani race. |
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