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Shinari
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| 30 Jan 2007 01:53 |
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| Sounds logical to me. Well said, Bang! |
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bang30
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| 30 Jan 2007 01:58 |
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its been nice talking to ya my friend
..but my eyes are glued together with tierdness !lol..
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good night u2 speak to yas soon bang!!
.ps i dont always end on a complament thanks very much lol |
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Shinari
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| 30 Jan 2007 01:58 |
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Most of what is said in wikipedia is baloney. I tried to track down the author of the article to say a word or two. So not only does the article misinterpret the Aset Ka, but we, the Romani followers of the Old Ways are NOT the Aset Ka. We have a major differences.
I'm sorry to have used that poor, misinterpreted and badly documented example. |
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Shinari
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| 30 Jan 2007 02:10 |
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"and you want any reliable source of information about them on the internet."
I meant, "and you wont any reliable source of information about them on the internet."
That little typo changes the whole meaning of the sentence! :P |
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bang30
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| 30 Jan 2007 12:25 |
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| hi shaniri'' just a intersting link dont know what youl think of it but its worth a read?
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. www.imninalu.net/imninalu.htm
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iv chated abouit this web site' before with people on here that dont agree ''i think he makes a lot of sence..i think gypsys came from egypt becose for hundreds of years this is were gypses them'self said they were from' up untill some language professre said 'no your not lol''
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i do think gypsys lived in india for many years and still live there today'
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i think the roma are the last group of gypsys to come out of india but romany was the first to leave there many years ago and come to europe.. all the best |
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bang30
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| 30 Jan 2007 12:26 |
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www.imninalu.net/imninalu.htm
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.just to be sure lol |
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Shinari
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| 30 Jan 2007 14:45 |
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Wow, very interesting. I have long seen a spiritual (and some other) connections between the Jews and the Romanies. Maybe this site will answer some of my speculations. I have saved the site and will look into it after a few more cups of coffee.
I also have theories about why the Nazis mainly attacked Jews and Romanies (yes, I know they also targeted the "Disabled" and Homosexuals), and it has to do with our roots.
From what I have said above. I don't think that our Clan is related to the Egyptians who left in the Exodus, but I know, as the Scriptures say, that the many Egyptians left with the Jews; so according to my beliefs, there very well could be a strong mix between Romanies and Jews. OooOOoohhh, the possibilities. It's nice to be shown things that are right under ones nose! Those Egyptians who left with the Jews must have been Romanies, since they were the ones always complaining about not having any garlic and leeks to eat in the desert!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA... :P
You HAVE to have garlic! |
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Shinari
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| 30 Jan 2007 17:14 |
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I heard that wearing an aluminum cone hat helps to keep you hidden from their tracking devices. Hee hee hee.
I'm reading the webpage that Bang sent me at the moment, and running around the house at my wife's bequest trying to sort things out. So yeah, I'll get around to these things! |
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bang30
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| 30 Jan 2007 17:15 |
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be carefull of that old' you tube!! iv heard its run by aliens!!
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Shinari
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| 30 Jan 2007 18:06 |
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Bang! I've been skimming over the website you sent me and a lot of the information there is not new to me. Let's just say that I agree more with that mentality than others about our history.
And yes, we do trace our roots further away then Egypt into Sumeria. Except, it was in Egypt that we established for the longest, and our beliefs developed strongly there too. Consider my Clan name which I have no problem sharing with people, it is Shinari. Do you know the transliteration connection between Sumer and Shinar? They are the same place. My name pretty much means, the cause of Sumer/Babylon.
Thanks for giving me the website. I don't like sharing too much information that I have been taught without using some modern day equavalent, since one of the main rules about teaching is for the student to have a foundation to base the new knowledge on. That is why in my board you will hear me using non-Roma terms - I only use these terms to help people understand obscure and esoteric topics.
It has been great talking with you guys about this. I want to take a break from the subject for my own reasons. Of course, I'll still be around, but I'm taking Matty's advice and just chill out on this topic for now.
Thank you everyone for being so courteous. I care about you all for being real nice to me on a topic that has been received much much worse in the past.
Sastipe kushti folki. |
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bang30
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| 30 Jan 2007 18:26 |
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| hi shinari!! i thought site was very interesting' '' i thought youd like it!
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i think its been a good chat!! its good to find out more about where gypses are from'.. and what they are about!!
ther is some things we cant talk about'' but the more we learn the more people will take romanys serious as a race of people!.. and not just some tramps that cant aford to live in a house!!
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all the best...bang |
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bang30
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| 30 Jan 2007 20:59 |
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| hi shinari,, i was just trying to log on to your friends of'' web site and cant seem to aswer a post? . is the site not working?
or im i bard for being a fascist? ..
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all the best... |
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Shinari
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| 30 Jan 2007 22:51 |
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Do you mean the Roma Old Ways board? I'm the administrator there, and no one has been banned. And don't call yourself a fascist, you're giving yourself a bad name, and I hardly think you are one.
The site seems to be working fine. Did you forget your password? What is the exact problem/error? I'll try and help how I can. |
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bang30
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| 30 Jan 2007 23:04 |
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| its the friends of romani bord? ..i seen some posts about fascist and stuff? and was going to ask if it was about any one on here??
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we seem to get on all right last night so i was just wondering?
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. any way dont worry about me giving myself a bad name lol ..
its the people that call ya names you have to feel sorry for lol..all the best |
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Shinari
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| 30 Jan 2007 23:21 |
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Ah that one. I don't know if anyone has been banned there. And I wasn't talking about anyone here. I was referring to some chavo in myspace who a lot of Romanies think is going a little overboard.
I hope you get it sorted. I have heard that people have had problems registering and login in the past. If I see Pocahontas around (she's been away lately) I'll try and inquire what is going on, ok? |
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bang30
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| 30 Jan 2007 23:26 |
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sorted lol
im glad you wasnt calling me a fascist!! i look nothing like a fascist!!
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bang30
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| 30 Jan 2007 23:27 |
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| hes got a set of simon cowel trousres on?? |
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Shinari
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| 30 Jan 2007 23:35 |
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| I had to change my pants after laughing so hard seeing that picture of "you". :)) That was disturbingly hilarious. You are on warped individual, Bang! No wonder I like ya. |
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valerierackly
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| 31 Jan 2007 11:21 |
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"I missed a lot yesterday didn't I";
i think its hard for a spiritualy people not to get into the beliefs and practices of gypsy/traveller people. i know that there are other groups of gypsies from around the world who practice some of the things that those asak ka/kyon was it practice.these things would have been wiped out in britain durin the crusades, but I have met romanian and kosovan gypsys and they either practice and have christian or muslim carracturistics in there cultures.
But what-ever there religous belief I can spot the gypsy romanian or kosavan roma, they behave in a different mannor to non gypsy.i cannot explain what i mean properly. some will just kow.
but i do know that not all gypsys from all places and family's are the same.
and that there will of course be many different practices and beleifs,we have only just learned to read and write in this country,till then we never knew we could find out about other gypsys, Indeed there are many of the old that think they in there own country are the only gypsys in the world.and why would they think any-thing else most of the past is forgoten in survival. they lived to survive not to educate and be taught. |
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May the peace of the LORD be with you always. God Bless |
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valerierackly
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| 31 Jan 2007 12:52 |
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i am as loyal to england as i am to being a romani gypsy.
peace be with you .
valerie. |
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May the peace of the LORD be with you always. God Bless |
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Shinari
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| 01/30/2007 1:53 AM |
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| Sounds logical to me. Well said, Bang! |
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bang30
Posts:0
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| 01/30/2007 1:58 AM |
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its been nice talking to ya my friend
..but my eyes are glued together with tierdness !lol..
.
good night u2 speak to yas soon bang!!
.ps i dont always end on a complament thanks very much lol |
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Shinari
Posts:150
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| 01/30/2007 1:58 AM |
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Most of what is said in wikipedia is baloney. I tried to track down the author of the article to say a word or two. So not only does the article misinterpret the Aset Ka, but we, the Romani followers of the Old Ways are NOT the Aset Ka. We have a major differences.
I'm sorry to have used that poor, misinterpreted and badly documented example. |
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Shinari
Posts:150
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| 01/30/2007 2:10 AM |
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"and you want any reliable source of information about them on the internet."
I meant, "and you wont any reliable source of information about them on the internet."
That little typo changes the whole meaning of the sentence! :P |
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bang30
Posts:0
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| 01/30/2007 12:25 PM |
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| hi shaniri'' just a intersting link dont know what youl think of it but its worth a read?
.
. www.imninalu.net/imninalu.htm
#
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iv chated abouit this web site' before with people on here that dont agree ''i think he makes a lot of sence..i think gypsys came from egypt becose for hundreds of years this is were gypses them'self said they were from' up untill some language professre said 'no your not lol''
.
i do think gypsys lived in india for many years and still live there today'
.
.
i think the roma are the last group of gypsys to come out of india but romany was the first to leave there many years ago and come to europe.. all the best |
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bang30
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| 01/30/2007 12:26 PM |
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www.imninalu.net/imninalu.htm
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.just to be sure lol |
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Shinari
Posts:150
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| 01/30/2007 2:45 PM |
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Wow, very interesting. I have long seen a spiritual (and some other) connections between the Jews and the Romanies. Maybe this site will answer some of my speculations. I have saved the site and will look into it after a few more cups of coffee.
I also have theories about why the Nazis mainly attacked Jews and Romanies (yes, I know they also targeted the "Disabled" and Homosexuals), and it has to do with our roots.
From what I have said above. I don't think that our Clan is related to the Egyptians who left in the Exodus, but I know, as the Scriptures say, that the many Egyptians left with the Jews; so according to my beliefs, there very well could be a strong mix between Romanies and Jews. OooOOoohhh, the possibilities. It's nice to be shown things that are right under ones nose! Those Egyptians who left with the Jews must have been Romanies, since they were the ones always complaining about not having any garlic and leeks to eat in the desert!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA... :P
You HAVE to have garlic! |
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Shinari
Posts:150
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| 01/30/2007 5:14 PM |
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I heard that wearing an aluminum cone hat helps to keep you hidden from their tracking devices. Hee hee hee.
I'm reading the webpage that Bang sent me at the moment, and running around the house at my wife's bequest trying to sort things out. So yeah, I'll get around to these things! |
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bang30
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| 01/30/2007 5:15 PM |
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| be carefull of that old' you tube!! iv heard its run by aliens!!
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'
.THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE !! (om youtube) |
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Shinari
Posts:150
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| 01/30/2007 6:06 PM |
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Bang! I've been skimming over the website you sent me and a lot of the information there is not new to me. Let's just say that I agree more with that mentality than others about our history.
And yes, we do trace our roots further away then Egypt into Sumeria. Except, it was in Egypt that we established for the longest, and our beliefs developed strongly there too. Consider my Clan name which I have no problem sharing with people, it is Shinari. Do you know the transliteration connection between Sumer and Shinar? They are the same place. My name pretty much means, the cause of Sumer/Babylon.
Thanks for giving me the website. I don't like sharing too much information that I have been taught without using some modern day equavalent, since one of the main rules about teaching is for the student to have a foundation to base the new knowledge on. That is why in my board you will hear me using non-Roma terms - I only use these terms to help people understand obscure and esoteric topics.
It has been great talking with you guys about this. I want to take a break from the subject for my own reasons. Of course, I'll still be around, but I'm taking Matty's advice and just chill out on this topic for now.
Thank you everyone for being so courteous. I care about you all for being real nice to me on a topic that has been received much much worse in the past.
Sastipe kushti folki. |
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bang30
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| 01/30/2007 6:26 PM |
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| hi shinari!! i thought site was very interesting' '' i thought youd like it!
.
.
i think its been a good chat!! its good to find out more about where gypses are from'.. and what they are about!!
ther is some things we cant talk about'' but the more we learn the more people will take romanys serious as a race of people!.. and not just some tramps that cant aford to live in a house!!
.
all the best...bang |
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bang30
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| 01/30/2007 8:59 PM |
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| hi shinari,, i was just trying to log on to your friends of'' web site and cant seem to aswer a post? . is the site not working?
or im i bard for being a fascist? ..
.
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all the best... |
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Shinari
Posts:150
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| 01/30/2007 10:51 PM |
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Do you mean the Roma Old Ways board? I'm the administrator there, and no one has been banned. And don't call yourself a fascist, you're giving yourself a bad name, and I hardly think you are one.
The site seems to be working fine. Did you forget your password? What is the exact problem/error? I'll try and help how I can. |
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bang30
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| 01/30/2007 11:04 PM |
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| its the friends of romani bord? ..i seen some posts about fascist and stuff? and was going to ask if it was about any one on here??
.
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we seem to get on all right last night so i was just wondering?
.
. any way dont worry about me giving myself a bad name lol ..
its the people that call ya names you have to feel sorry for lol..all the best |
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Shinari
Posts:150
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| 01/30/2007 11:21 PM |
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Ah that one. I don't know if anyone has been banned there. And I wasn't talking about anyone here. I was referring to some chavo in myspace who a lot of Romanies think is going a little overboard.
I hope you get it sorted. I have heard that people have had problems registering and login in the past. If I see Pocahontas around (she's been away lately) I'll try and inquire what is going on, ok? |
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bang30
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| 01/30/2007 11:26 PM |
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| sorted lol
im glad you wasnt calling me a fascist!! i look nothing like a fascist!!
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bang30
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| 01/30/2007 11:27 PM |
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| hes got a set of simon cowel trousres on?? |
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Shinari
Posts:150
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| 01/30/2007 11:35 PM |
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| I had to change my pants after laughing so hard seeing that picture of "you". :)) That was disturbingly hilarious. You are on warped individual, Bang! No wonder I like ya. |
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valerierackly
Posts:1040
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| 01/31/2007 11:21 AM |
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"I missed a lot yesterday didn't I";
i think its hard for a spiritualy people not to get into the beliefs and practices of gypsy/traveller people. i know that there are other groups of gypsies from around the world who practice some of the things that those asak ka/kyon was it practice.these things would have been wiped out in britain durin the crusades, but I have met romanian and kosovan gypsys and they either practice and have christian or muslim carracturistics in there cultures.
But what-ever there religous belief I can spot the gypsy romanian or kosavan roma, they behave in a different mannor to non gypsy.i cannot explain what i mean properly. some will just kow.
but i do know that not all gypsys from all places and family's are the same.
and that there will of course be many different practices and beleifs,we have only just learned to read and write in this country,till then we never knew we could find out about other gypsys, Indeed there are many of the old that think they in there own country are the only gypsys in the world.and why would they think any-thing else most of the past is forgoten in survival. they lived to survive not to educate and be taught. |
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May the peace of the LORD be with you always. God Bless |
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valerierackly
Posts:1040
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| 01/31/2007 12:52 PM |
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i am as loyal to england as i am to being a romani gypsy.
peace be with you .
valerie. |
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May the peace of the LORD be with you always. God Bless |
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| You are not authorized to post a reply. |
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