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victor
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| 14 Apr 2007 17:51 |
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| Hi, nomadbill, you are right politics are all the same when it comes to voting, some politics will sell their souls to the devil for a vote, yes again you hit the right spot, Brasil is a very dangerous place to live, particularly, Rio, San paulo, and the north of the country, but the south is a diffrent story, I think that is because their is less miserables, over there, and is mostly white population, Germans, Italian, and portuguees, immigrants, when I used to go there, I thought I was in Europe some place, but all in all, the people have a good character, and there is almost no discremination, to have a good time you will have to come and see for yourself, the freedom is contegious, and the women are lovely, at my age I still admire beauty one I see one. |
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nomadbill
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| 15 Apr 2007 12:36 |
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| Hi Victor, I have a friend who done some travelling in Brasil & said they nearly got shot over a cab ride. They also apparently strolled down the worst street in Rio drunk, without a problem, like i said when your numbers up that's it. It obviously wasn't their time as they got through both experiences without a scratch. I'd like to do South America at some point but friends who are well travelled suggested cutting my teeth in South East Asia first as it is not quite as risky and will teach me a few things so as i'm a bit wiser when i jump into the deep end. I had heard that in parts it's very friendly but that the divide between rich & poor is vast. I'd also heard about the women too!! Who knows Victor, maybe one day. Take care, Nomad |
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Bajan
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| 15 Apr 2007 14:06 |
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The divide between rich and poor is definately in your face in South America, say like..... in some parts of India. There's the most amazing area in Venezuela called the Sabana Grande - feel you would love it there Nomadman - Angel Falls is there. Mother Earth reminds one of her presence in a wondrous way for sure. Have you ever seen the Samba dance... how incredible is that fa true!
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nomadbill
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| 15 Apr 2007 14:13 |
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| Bajan, no i don't recall ever seeing the samba dance. I'll be sure to check it out and the Sabana Grande when i make it over there. Angel falls is defo on the list. But then so are so many places. I'd like to see the "Northern lights" before i leave this planet too. It's a shame that these things all cost a fortune, it'd be great to just travel for years without worrying where the next paypacket is coming from. Take care doll, the nomad |
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Bajan
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| 15 Apr 2007 15:13 |
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The Samba is from Brazil and there are schools teaching children from really young... its an artform and an amazing workout too! I bet there are videos on You Tube... try searching for something like "Carnival in Rio de Janeiro" or just "Samba dancing" and you'll see what I mean about movement, giggle.
I was lucky enough to spend about 10 days in the Sabana Grande and one morning woke up to realize a scorpion had been in the tent with me all night, holy sh...
Would love to see the Northern Lights myself. Ya know... I met this incredible lady last summer in The Assembly Rooms in Glastonbury... for the past 50 years (she seemed in her 70's/80's) she's been hitchhiking all over the world. She's never had a bank account or received a bill and has never claimed the dole. Trust that whatever she needs will come her way is enough and so life has opened and unfolded that way for her. Every day is an unknown adventure and I believe she is a gift to all of us. When she shares her wonderful stories she becomes a little girl and her excitement and happiness filled me right up. Imagine - she has travelled across the Sahara with the Bedouin and the Tuareg - boy do I hope to meet her again sometime soon.
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Bajan
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| 15 Apr 2007 18:31 |
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Check this out Nomadman, this post really goes under the "Weird Happenings" theme - but it relates to what we were just discussing - the Sabana Grande... I got an email today from a friend (Venezuelan) who very rarely sends emails... she sent pictures recently taken in the Sabana Grande!!! I wanted to attach them so you could see, but the files are way too big. What a bummer! Everyday it seems I'm reminded there are no coincidences in life.
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victor
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| 15 Apr 2007 19:50 |
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| Hi again Nomad, I do not know who told you that, south east Asia is safe, there you don't have to be afraid of bandits, but on the other hand, you must take 2 to 3 vacines, to travel there unfortunately because of the poor, they have no medic aid, and carry sicknesses with them, which might effect you, I got sick in Culcata, with Tyfoos, and nearly kicked the bucket, but again, were there is misery there is bandits etc, etc, but to see Asia is a must in a life time of any man or woman, go and see it, because we only have one life.Victor |
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nomadbill
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| 15 Apr 2007 20:15 |
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| Victor, you are so right my friend, one life! Thanks for your encouragement. I think compared with some countries Asia is safe but there are still things to watch out for. There have been several westerners murdered over there in the last few years but when u consider that nearly a million brits go there every year, the odds of getting killed are longer than winning the lottery! Like you say, whereever there is poverty & sickness there will always be some that are willing to rob or worse to provide for their families. Can u really blame them? I'm not sure you can! I have had my Japanese Encephilitus and Rabies vacines already along with Polio, Diptheria, Tetanus, Hepatitus and other booster injections. Felt like a pin cushion actually, i had so many needles over a short period! I'm probably due for some boosters now, oh dear!!...... Take care, the nomad |
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nomadbill
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| 15 Apr 2007 20:22 |
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| Bajan, heh whats that all about then eh? You must be psychic!...... That old girl sounds great, travelling for fifty years without banks or bills. Wot a life she's had, I'll bet she has enough memories for a hundred of us 9-5ers. I'd love to meet up with her, wonder whether there's any tickets left for Glastonbury? Take care, nomad |
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victor
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| 16 Apr 2007 01:11 |
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| Hi, Nomad, you did well in having so much injection, I mean vacines, No I do not blame those who rob to suport their families, I would have done that myself, but to kill innocent people, there is no money in this world to pay for such a crime! but unfortunately in Brazil, if you are in the wrong place, and on the wrong time some of these bandits kill for ten dollars, not for hunger, but generaly to suport their vice I mean dope, of all types, you are right when you said that out of a million people 2 or 3 get hurt, robed, or killed! this really like a lottery, I would very much liked to know are you a Gypsy or a half cast! please write me because I am very curious, Victor |
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Bajan
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| 16 Apr 2007 11:26 |
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Sorry Nomadman, but those festival tickets sold out within 1 and a half hours of going on sale; if you really wanted to go there's always the option of working some of the time.
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nomadbill
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| 16 Apr 2007 17:34 |
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Posted By Bajan on 16 Apr 2007 11:26
Sorry Nomadman, but those festival tickets sold out within 1 and a half hours of going on sale; if you really wanted to go there's always the option of working some of the time.
What kind of work would i have to do Bajan, sounds good though! Never done a festival and it is one of those things on my list of "To do's" before i die! Take care doll, nomad |
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nomadbill
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| 16 Apr 2007 17:43 |
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| Victor, I am mixed my friend! My fathers side are Gypsy, my great granny was a Scamp. My mothers side are Gordjas. My Great grandfather on her side used to build houses on the shore of Lake Ontario in Canada. So it's hard to tell where the wonderlust comes from, is it the Gypsy in me or does it come from mums side who moved about a bit? I'm not sure and i'm not too bothered - I just want to see the world!! I hope it does not make a difference to how you see me Victor. We lived in a caravan on my great aunt Maysies site till i was 2 but have been a house dweller since. Take care, nomad |
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Bajan
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| 17 Apr 2007 14:00 |
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Oh let me tellya, the Glastonbury one is something else again... a biggie festival for sure... have a look at their official website - www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk - under "information" and then you'll see an option for jobs, there's all kinds to do. In 2005 I helped a friend with her stall and got in free that way (lucky me). Last summer the Sunrise Summer Solstice Festival (in Somerset as well) was really good too, but on a much smaller and in some ways nicer scale. If you have any friends who live in Glastonbury, you might still be able to get hold of a ticket as some are kept back for those who live in town; so I've been told anyway. Chekya lata den, Dudess Doll's being a bit naughty on the internet instead of working cause the whole bl...y office is at cricket!
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nomadbill
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| 17 Apr 2007 23:54 |
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| Thanks for the link Bajan, I see that there's a chance of some tickets for resale on 29th this month, hmmm I wonder? The job front looks slim - maybe i'll try to find out who does the plumbing, then again i suppose that means dealing with them loos! Reminds me of your embarassing moment, he he! Take care, nomad |
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victor
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| 18 Apr 2007 00:20 |
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| My Dear friend Nomadbill, it really does not matter how many diffrent blood mixture you have, what matters for me that even if you have a drop of Gypsy blood, that makes you my race, that is how I think, the traveling side of you, I can swear that it is your Gypsy side working! because I feel the some, thank you for answering me, I would very much like to change ideas with you ! so please write me, if you want to know about the GYpsies around the world, your friend always Victor! |
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nomadbill
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| 18 Apr 2007 01:16 |
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| Victor my friend, i'm pleased that you think like that - there are some that will not accept us mixed folki. Having read some of your posts, it's clear that you have travelled about and seen a great deal of the world. I'm sure that you have great knowledge & wisdom to pass on regards our race and how we differ in various parts of this great planet, I will most certainly remain in contact, take care, your friend The Nomad! |
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Cj Eastwood
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| 31 May 2007 21:56 |
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Hi All
Just jumped on to comment with regards to the Romani flag.
I guess it really comes down to an individual oppinion as to whether you respect and recognise the works of the World Romani Congress and the work it does amongst such bodies as the United Nations to gain recognision and respect for the Romani folki amongst the many other nations and people of the world?
True a vote was not put out to all the many million or so Roms around the globe as to whether they would like a flag or what they think the flag should look like as I guess this would a very major and very costly task to perform. I guess such a task is an unrealistic expectance to realistically suggest.
Many flags of the world that came into existence did not do so by design. An example of this is the British Union Jack. The Union Jack was actually designed for being flown from ships but in time and circumstance became accepted as the flag of the Uk that every body instantly knows and recognises.
The World Romani probually felt that a flag was needed for political reasons as to get identified and better acceptance as a serious ethnic group and people. It is not uncommon as most ethnic groups fighting for recognision have done the same. Take the Kurds or some of the ethnics groups within Russia such as the Tartars.
I think now that many every day Romani families and individuals have adopted the flag as their own as an object of recognision and unification.
Whether we use it as our own preferred symbol of identity or whether we try and create something different hoping others will catch on with support, we should all show some respect to how the flag came into being and to what the people behind the flag were trying to perform.
I personally feel that the flag has become too great amongst International usuage to dismiss as not being part of the Romani culture. It is flown amongst Roms of many countries including major events such as the Romani festivals in Prague or Chandighar.
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victor
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| 02 Jun 2007 03:58 |
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Mr. Eastwood, I was against this flag business, because I thought that we neeed a land a government, and many other things to be ricognized by the world!, I still think it is primiture for us to have a flag, because we are not united, and we have very big diffrences amongst our selves, this will take time and money to organize our people, which i think that may be in a century or so it might come true, I also think that the world today has no time or energy for us , because as you know this is a troubled world, but keep on trying, I have tried in Brazil to organize an institution for our people through the actuall government, and the government promisess, that it will act , but to no avail. Victor
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Cj Eastwood
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| 03 Jun 2007 21:27 |
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Respect to you Victor on your passion and work for the Romani folki of Brazil. I think any work towards a better future, especially for those less privaledged than ourselves deserves much encouragement.
What is the title of your book? and where do we get it from?
But Lacho
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