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| 07 Aug 2008 14:33 |
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as long as it was'ent a mokodi juckle sal,
i just came back this once for ya made me sad with the talk,you say you wont get better, well i say your healed already,you live your life strong,how can you die when you live,sure i seen death,death at the last breath, yet i saw light and so shall you,
imagine me and you standing at far ends of an unending coridoor, well can you hear me speak,well step a little closer, but still you hear nothing, why because there is now a strong class door that seperates us, but Angel try not to hear just serch out my eyes,never be afraid, i saw them come as they do and they dont come alone, there was three of them and you'll be alright , sovally X |
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romaniangel
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| 10 Aug 2008 04:52 |
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hello wilsher
thankyou for your concern but pls dont be sad, when i say i wont get better it simply means iv had to accept my illlness because i have got worse as the drs said i would
but accepting it does'nt mean im giving in to it im still fighting it best i can.................6 yrs ago they said i would be in wheelchair within 12 months but i told them no way & determined i never will be & im still walking lol
kushti bok
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Shahnee
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| 11 Aug 2008 02:27 |
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Hello,
I am taking this opportunity to set the record straight regarding myself and this site.
Firstly in the latter part of 2006 I started to receive a number personnel emails from other members of JF regarding the content and posts within the site. Whilst I shared these concerns there was little that I could do personally as I had been removed as management from the site in the mid part of the same year. This removal had been instigated by Risha (despite the disapproval of shaz, the other manager).
I replied to all those who emailed me assuring them that whilst I understood and shared their concerns that as I was no longer a manager of the site and I could do little but ask them to forward their concerns to Risha. The response from many was that they had tried this previous to emailing me, and had no response.
Over time and into the early part of 2007, I received further emails and became very concerned that many were becoming disheartened with the site, as was I.
I then took the very PUBLIC step of posting a disclaimer on various public domain sites in order that all concerned knew ONCE AND FOR ALL that I was not a manager of JF, and whilst I shared their concerns I could do little about it.
This post was then posted on JF by Risha. This did not unduly concern me as I had hoped that it would engender some positive consideration and response from Risha. How nieve of me!!!
Instead Risha chose to twist the contents of this post in the following manner:
1)to insinuate that I was calling all members of JF GADGE – which I did not – I said “that the site was running in a GADJE manner” – note: the site not the members!
2)my later posts of JF were then posted trying to insinuate that I was two-faced in some manner, by continuing to post after I had posted publicly elsewhere disclaiming the site - I CONTINUED TO POST FOR 2 REASONS ONLY – this being my loyalty to those who had befriended me on this site and to inform Shaz of that which occurred within the site (as I had done since her last posting in December of 2006).
3)then posted within certain closed forums were my early posts from the old site Gypsy Forum – in order that people should think me a WANNABE – BUT THESE POSTS HAD BEEN EDITIED AND TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT OF THE FULL POSTS , BEFORE BEING PLACED THEM ON JF. (I was most cautious on the previous site to not say too much until I was certain of facts, and this was not a method of deception!)
4) Many of my posts of JF where then removed and edited, for one can only assume, underhanded reasons.
After of these posts of one kind or another where made/deleted/edited by Risha,(in some cases posing AS MODERATOR ), I was then banned from the site so that I could not respond to them.(I have recently been informed by Shaz that she had noticed the ban and removed it, and this is why I am able to now post.), and therefore could not publically defend myself, so it many have appeared to many that I was guilty, by default.
I CAN ASSURE ALL THAT WAS NOT THE CASE!!
It was at this point I then I decieded that it would be best to simply move on with my life, despite my deep concerns that many members would never know the truth.
To those who took the time to know me, thank you, you have always been within my thoughts.
To all those who may have felt deserted by myself, my apologies, but I now hope you can see that this was not the case.
I have not returned to this site as a member, and shall not post again,
My best wishes and deepest respects to all who remember me.
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sid
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| 11 Aug 2008 11:04 |
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well hello agian remebere me? i used to post on this site and the old site my name on this site was papa justify but i was banned by the lovely risha god bless her.
to cut a very long story short i could see straight thru her and i was blammed for a lot of trouble causing as was my dear friend tilly both of us where inoccent.
and one day risha banned me so i could not defend my self.
so to set thing straight.
number one.
if i hade hade a problem with any one i would have told them lots of posts where made about people but they where not made by me.
number two.
thanks to the people whom did belive me.
number three.
risha my dear risha i so hope you read this.
you banned me remebere? now look how the tables have turned.
i once said give her enough rope and she will hang her self like all dictators you where your own down fall.
do you remebere when you said you sent me that email and you never and tryed to make me look silly do you recall that?
in one of the last mails i sent to this forum asking why i hade been banned i said he who laughs last laughs the loudest.
do you recall all of what you did to us?
whoops i forgot you cant answear me as you have been banned.
i wish you no ill feelings.
what i can see is everone has said they have moved on with there lives i only hope you can do the same.
finally hello to wilsher shanee and a big thaks to romany angel xxxxxxxxxxx.
and risha i hope you find what ever it is you are looking for.
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sid
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| 11 Aug 2008 13:02 |
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oooooooooooooooo the funnest thing just happened one of my favorite songs just came on the radio it goes like this. Who’s sorry now, who’s sorry now
Whose heart is achin’ for breakin’ each vow
Who’s sad and blue, who’s cryin’ too
Just like I cried over you
Right to the end, just like a friend
I tried to warn you somehow
You had your way, now you must pay
I’m glad that you’re sorry now
Right to the end, just like a friend
I tried to warn you somehow
You had your way, now you must pay
I’m glad that you’re sorry now
whom else knows this song how about you risha you where all ways on about songs do you know this one? whoops silly me forgotten agian old scatter brains i am. you cant reply to this your banned.
o well i dont think i shall be posting agian but you never know.
thank you father god both my self and tilly lee have been proved inoccent we never caused any trouble.
when you read this tilly girl god bless you and yours.
one last thing silence is golden golden but my eyes still see hahahahaaaa music is amazing.
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sid
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| 11 Aug 2008 14:08 |
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hello agian.:D.
now then shannee i belive you got married best of luck to you both:cool:
wilsher my old fount of wisdom i all ways enjoyed your posts so much as you know:satisfied:
and all the other people whom i used to know the world seems a diffrent place now to back then.
come on lets all start talking agian its good to talk i am not saying 24 hours a day but come on time was we where all sat round talking laughing and crying togther.:laugh:.
all togther now:w00t:.
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valerierackly
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| 11 Aug 2008 14:29 |
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| hello sid, i don't really remeber much about you. hows life treating you. |
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May the peace of the LORD be with you always. God Bless |
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romaniangel
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| 11 Aug 2008 14:43 |
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hi everyone heres an update...............after having several talks with Wylie about what has happened he has now removed all admin rights Risha ever had & asked me to pass on his apologies to any he may have offended or upset including Tilly
he now realises he only ever had Rishas word on anything & regrets any actions he may have took on her word, he is a kind mush who has always had respect for us so i hope you can all forgive him as he has been misled & used by Risha just as much if not more than we have
so the site is now again as it should have been in the first place for our folki
im still cleaning up which Wylie also thanks me for & hopefully i should be finished before the week ends.
kushti bok
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sonnaka
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| 11 Aug 2008 14:51 |
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Well thanks shaz for letting us all know whats what !! as for Risha from what I have seen on other and believ just type in the name and hundreds
come up all on the same topic! if the folks wanna know the real R check out. http://www.youtube.com/user/BoriChumba |
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Cammy
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| 11 Aug 2008 16:04 |
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| Well"" a few words come to mind ! Fanatic/Mad/Brainwashed/Lost the plot !!! needs help I think. |
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| 11 Aug 2008 19:04 |
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| Well im gob smacked to tell you all the truth, no wonder why the sites been so quite, because everyone was band that’s why, that’s unbelievable. I wrote to Wylie about 3 weeks ago to get things removed and he ask me how the site was doing well I told the poor man the truth I said its gone proper down hill and no one posts on there no more and not to waste he’s money on it, but now we all know why. Nice to see everyone back, and its all thanks to you romaniangel, good on ya mate! :0) |
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romaniangel
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| 12 Aug 2008 01:29 |
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Sid & Mary
thankyou its nice to be appreciated im just sorry i had'nt stepped in sooner things would'nt have got as bad if i had so please all i hope you accept my apologies for not being here sooner
dordi so much still to do but least i got most done now, iv also decided to delete ALL that Risha posted as i dont think anyone needs a reminder of anything wafti
kushti bok
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Shahnee
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| 12 Aug 2008 02:21 |
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Hello All,
Well, I did say I would not post again, but I was brought up to with respectful ways, and always told to speak to others when spoken to. So as some have mentioned my name and have spoken directly to me, I cannot and will not, in all good conscience ignore these folki.
Firstly, to Sid who has spoken directly to me:
Dear Sid,
I have, and always will, hold yourself in great regard. I know that Risha tried to set us one against the other, and told untruths regarding both of us. But my “gut instinct” always told me that we were simply pawns in one of her games. I hold no malice toward you and never have done, you have always held a respected place in my mind. For any wrong doing or saying that I may have placed against you I sincerely apologise, and can only hope that you realise it was not of my doing. Yes, I was rommered some two years ago now and my anniversary has just passed (4th August), so thank you for the mention. , You do have my email so please feel free to contact me if you so wish, I wish you well and you are forever in my thoughts, Shahnee.
To Tilly, whilst you have not spoken I do hope you are reading:
Dear Tilly,
You and I have had our differences but once again these were instigated by another. Many emails apparently from myself or yourself to each other have turned out to be nothing more then contrived lies reproduced by Risha. How dinlo I felt when I realised that she had set us one against another, and that those emails we “received” from one another, were in fact copies on the same emails which she had devised. I felt even more ashamed when I remembered your parting email to myself where you warned me that not all were who they seemed and eventually I would be turned on in the same manner as you had been. I know we have spoken since, and we have agreed to leave all differences behind, as much was of Risha’s doing, but I do feel the need to publically apologise to yourself again. I wish it known that I bear you no ill will, and hope that one day we may re-establish our conversation, as I feel we have much to talk about. My best wishes and deepest respects, Shahnee.
To Wilsher, who I know has posted:
Dear Sir,
Whilst it may have appeared to some including yourself that I and Risha were “tarred with the same brush”, I can assure you we WERE AND ARE NOT!! But I do not blame nor hold you in contempt for this – it is, after all, understandable. I was duped and taken in by Risha at the beginning, but as you can plainly see from my previous post, I later discovered her true nature. So please be assured I am a respectful rawnie, and have always been so. I never turned against you or sided with Risha, thought later anonymous “editing” may have appeared to make it so. On more then one occasion I did defend you, and I was not alone in this, but all these posts mysteriously “disappeared”. I have always found you a humourous but deep thinking person, and held your wisdom, (whilst hidden in the words the meaning was clear), a refreshing change to others more sly and subtle innuendos. Do you recall that when we first met on the net , we did indeed email each other for some time, and the conversation was always stimulating and enlightening? I do appreciate if you choose not to respond to this post, but know this, I do respect you deeply and wish you well in life, Shahnee.
To Wylie,
Dear Wylie,
Thank you for all your endeavours regarding the Gypsy & Traveller communities, you have always been a staunch supporter and your heart is and always has been in the right place. I am sure I am not the only one who feels that you were not personally to blame for any of the troubles caused by Risha. You have sadly been duped like the rest of us, and as humans we learn by our mistakes. I do hope you and your family are well and that you gain all the goodness you deserve from it, Shahnee.
A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO ROMANI ANGEL:
Miri phen,
Thank you for unswerving support of me during such difficult times. For some time you were the only person who believed in me and knew me to be a true and honest person. I am eternally grateful for your friendship and love. Thank you for removing all my contributions and posts on this site, as I requested. But most of all thank you for so loyally and with such care, facilitating the needs of the members of JF, God will shine on you for all that you have done, Tiri phen, Shahnee.
I do hope this has clarified things with some members of this site, but for any others who may have concerns regarding myself, please feel free to post to me and I will respond to you. I feel this is an ideal opportunity to rectify any misunderstandings and have the truth, once and for all, out in the open.
With kam and respect, Shahnee.
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romaniangel
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| 12 Aug 2008 04:14 |
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Shahnee
your most welcome miri phen
as i already confided to you shortly after the opening of JF Risha changed totally from the person i thought she was..........behind the scenes the tatcho side began to appear in many ways............so all her many attempts to turn me against you & other folki just did'nt work & i dont think she liked the fact i could'nt be manipulated to do & think her way.
which leads me to Tilly
Tilly i hope you still read posts on here because i wish to thank you also.
do you remember the email you sent to my then msn mail account ?
in it you revealed that you knew my identity as the then Mod of this site was also romaniangel & you also knew my real nav Sharon Williams (i have no problem with folki knowing my real nav as i have nothing to hide), but what i did have a problem with was that you had got this from Risha who had no right to disclose personal info bout me or anyone...............this proved what i had already began to suspect that she could'nt be trusted.
but the thing that really alarmed me was you saying i knew the "twister" personally ?................i did intend replying to ask what & who you meant but it was shortly after this i was offline ill & by the time i got back online my msn account was no longer active so i no longer had your email to reply to, so pls dont think i was ignoring you.
what Risha did'nt reckon on was the fact that while i was offline i was being kept informed of everything she was doing on JF including posting as me by a few folki.
also shortly after your mail Risha admitted all the posts that had vanished from Gypsy Forum she originally blamed shahnee for had been deleted by herself.
this admission along with what you said confirmed what i had already began to suspect & confided in Shahnee that i thought the "twister" was Risha herself............she was very devious & clever the way she blamed you Tilly, Rose & Shahnee for things but the tatcho drom always appears in the end
much kam to all & thankyou for being patient while i clean up JF for you
kushti bok
Shaz
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Shahnee
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| 12 Aug 2008 06:23 |
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Miri phen,
I am grateful to you for mentioning the deleted GF posts and the fact that I had nothing what so ever to do with them being removed.
I feel it only prudent to mention at this point, publically, that Risha approached me (during my temporary time as Moderator of GF), on more then one occasion insisting that certain posts be removed and edited, as she personally deemed them to have a alterior meaning within them. She consistently called me “so nieve” as I was not able to view these posts in the manner she did.
Although I was only temporarly moderating that site, Shaz had correctly instructed me to remain objective and to only remove and edit those posts which were offensive or abusive. I saw no need to remove or edit the posts that so concerned Risha, as none of these posts met the criteria for removal or editing. Risha’s paranoid concerns regarding these posts led to a great deal of discourse between us and eventually I was removed as moderator and subsequently these posts were then removed or edited.
I will also publically state that it was during this removal of myself as temporary moderatior that my original msn account was “hacked” into and once I had been informed of this I closed that account. It has always seemed strange to me that immediately after the “hacking “ of my account that the specific posts that had been the cause of such discourse within the forum subsequently “disappeared”.
I know of one occasion where a conversation took place between Tilly and Shaz, as fast as they posted their responses to each other a third person removed them. This led to much anger from both the parties concerned. The only person who had the administrative powers to do this was Risha, herself.
Which brings me to my next point. The “disappearing” and “anonymous” editing of posts within JF.
On many occasions there has been deleation and editing of posts which were by an “anonymous” person with administrative powers. As Shaz was unwell, and there was no other moderator or administrator on site, this only left Risha. On more then one occasion, myself and others, privately and publically asked where our posts had gone or why they had been changed. We gained no response and it became a public joke - “lost in cyberspace” . These complaints and humourous attempts to get answers also “disappeared”, and strangely enough almost always “disappeared” as fast as they were posted.
As Risha later admitted to Shaz that the GF posts were of her doing, then I feel it safe to suggest that it were also Risha, herself, who “lost in cyberspace” etc the JF posts. As on the previous occasion, on this second occasion she was the only person able to access the administration.
I could cite many occasions on JF, and I am sure I am not the only one, where my posts have been deleted/editied to such a degree as to totally misrepresent me and my opinions and brought about much argument and discourse between myself and others. When I would try to dissipate these arguments I was deemed a “liar” or “fair weather” as my public posts did not reflect my further private discourse with those who may have been offended by the “anonymous” editor.
I have of course learnt my lesson well – AND NOW SAVE ALL POSTS I MAKE TO ANY FORUM, by this method I can safeguard myself, as I no longer trust that posts will remain in their original form.
On some occasions on JF I would also find I was “logged in” when in fact I had only just come on line! Then I would watch as “Shahnee” posted, at first this was quite bemusing and then it became apparent that who so ever was posting as myself had alterior motives for doing so. I have to say at this point that only one person who knew my password was Risha. This is because it was the same password as my previous moderator password, and she was aware of this.
On reflection, both I and Shaz had been very “nieve” in our trusting of our then passwords to Risha, but we were all in a position of trust, not only with each other but with the members of the sites we administered, so why would we not trust each other?!
I think it is safe to say that Risha abused the trust and confidence of not only the members of both sites but also of the owner, Wylie. Something which is UNFORGIVABLE!!
Hopefully with the removal of Risha’s administrative powers the concerns that all of us may have regarding posting of JF are no more. Thank you Shaz and Wylie for removing these powers and banning her, surely life on JF will be much safer and far more honest for it?!!
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sid
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| 12 Aug 2008 07:19 |
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hello.
to you all i wish the best.
first of all shahnee.
you have nothing to be sorry about. the only person who should be sorry is risha her problem with me started on the old site i have waited over two years to be proven innocent of wrong doing and its been a long time comeing.
i for one dont understand what any one would have to gain by doing such things.
i have tryed to conntect you in the past regarding this matter but give up as i was not able to find you.
i for one dont want this site to be to fall apart if that was to happen risha would have won.
so shahnee we me and you have no problem with each other.
finally risha what on earth did you ever hope to gain i know what your going thru not being able to defend your self.
the diffrence is you brought this on your self what i went thru you and only you inflicted on me and i dont think i will ever understand why.
the only person here with an agenda was you.
i pray for you god bless.
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Shahnee
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| 12 Aug 2008 07:36 |
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Hello Sid,
Thank you so much for your response to me, I am humbled and grateful for it.
Thank you for saying I don’t owe you an apology, but to some degree I still feel an apology was in order. Mainly due to that fact that I allowed myself to get drawn into arguments of Risha’s devising, and in allowed her to build up a vendetta against you – I SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING – she was right ABOUT ONE THING ALONE – I was very nieve, especially with regards to her!!
I am so sorry you have been unable to get in touch before now, so we could sort this out, but I am glad that we have been able to reconnect here and we have now resolved the misunderstanding that occurred. Shaz has my email address so if you wish to talk further then please email her and she will pass it to you.
Finally, I am glad that we have no issues between us now, and I wish you and yours all the very best,
With deepest respects and well wishes,
Shahnee
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Tilly's back
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| 12 Aug 2008 10:48 |
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Siddy boy, the main man,
Here! Here! I say aloud to all sid's writing's on here. You said Sid didn't you that the "truth will out" and "give her enough rope she'll hang her self. Now just to clarify to all readers who have never herd of this saying it doesn't really mean Risha should go and hang her self, lol!!
Shaz,
I can't see no need what so ever to thank me but hey!! thanks for the thanks lol. Yes, I remember the message I sent you and shall shed a little light in my doing so. Way back when Risha ran this site I knew 100% that she posed as Romanyangle and moderator (to be honest she really wasn't that good at pretending to be any one else, once a memeber (or my self) rattled her cage she soon shon through as Risha regardless of the nav she posted in). knowing this, I felt that your nav was moody, just another of Risha's alias's, therefor I wrote you via msn and on receiving no reply rewarded my own intelligence that you are an alias of Risha, lol. I am sorry for revealing your full nav, I understand that you've nothing to hide but feel the need to say "sorry" to you because when Risha did this to me, on here, I felt it wasn't her right to disclose personal info' on others.
You see I went to great lengths to inform Wylie of Risha's antic's, I even contacted him via a separate web site of his that has no connections with Jf, in doing so I feel Rish either had the computer skills to intercept my email to Wylie or that Wylie him self had forwarded my letter of complaint onto Risha, this armed her with my full name as Tilly is my preferred middle name. But like your self I have nothing to hide. I'm not sure how many know that I was the one who contacted Wylie, asked if he could help us have a forum of our own to use. For Gypsy people who are born by blood a Gypsy instead of the user's on Whylie's old site who had adopted the word Gypsy because they travel. Risha took over, unbe-knowings to me slated my person to all she came in contact with, not being activally involved in the running of this site was fine by me, I never wanted the hassle of running a forum moreover just to be a user and to be honest I haven't even got good comp' skills and wouldn't have been able to help at all in setting it up. The next thing I knew Risha and Wylie had worked together for years, she has his designer, lol. then Risha contacted Shahnee and your self to help run, set up and moderate this site (although I truely belived you was just a made up person because this board required three people to run it). Like I said that was fine by me but after posting as a mer member (Arrrrrrrr bless me) the time soon rolled around for my banning. At the time I was somewhat disgruntled at being called a "sly trouble maker and being accused as "THE" trouble maker. I believe to date the writings on here about me authored by Risha and co-signed by wylie was probably the most insulting long winded load of rubbish that has ever been written on here, so that records mine, mine I tell ya all, lol!! Of corse it was left long enough to give all readers and members a warped idea of the sly corupt person I am and was then deleted. At the time I contacted wylie and said I was not pleased with the defamation of my characterter on a public board that was both unfair and injust. Still with the banding set in motion I had no way of publically defending my self on the board and Wylie refused to comunicate about the matter with me. My dear friend Sid tried to defend me but that lead to him being warned not to get invovled, Sid I fear asked for his banding as he did not bow down to "Hale Risha" and always spoke openly and honestly, see the problem with Sid and I? I am affraid we couldn't kid Risha with false nicitie's, lol. I tried sevral times to get my post's deleted from this site as well as my name removed from the members list but again received no answer's from Wylie, who by the way I hold no malis toward, I agree he has had the wool pulled firmly over the yok's.
So pass on from me that I exsept his sorry and I feel the best has come out of this that could have come, the banning of Risha who truley is the only person who deserved the banning!!!
It's all such a long time ago now that to be honest I do see the funny side of it. Just how many people has this women be-friended then A-fended? See it's me old saying "all the glitters is not gold".
Thanks Siddy boy for letting me know all this has come to light, a tacho very true romany rye.
Hi Shahnee how come you keep saying that your not going to post on here then, seems to me there's enough people willing and wanting to chat with you, I rekon you should stay around. Like I said already to you "water under the bridge". See, it took me equally as long to see through Risha I truly belived I'd found an internet friend. We as people can only see others how we think and feel. To be spitful, cunning, corupt and sly one would think we'd be able to see all to easily, it's not so!! Those who are sly, when one is not deseave us so easily. But "yeh" your right "I did warn ya, One up on me then? Only joking.
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| 12 Aug 2008 12:14 |
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Hello Tilly and welcome back!!
Yes - I know that I said that I would not post again, but in a later post I pointed out that I always speak when spoke to and that’s why I replied, and to be very honest this was an ideal opportunity for me to set the record straight as, to be blunt. I was fed up to the back teeth of being associated with Risha and her behaviour!!
Once upon a time I could cheerfully have throttled her after the way she has treated and spoke about members of this and the other site, including myself!
But as it now stands I don’t have to – because she has throttled herself WITH HER OWN HANDS!! LOL!
I am pleasantly surprised that folki have taken the time to read and reply to my posts – including yourself, and yes - what happended is water under the bridge.
Shame no one told me how deep the dam water was going to be BEFORE I decieded to jumped in! LOL!
Having drowned slowly, ( I never was a good swimmer), I dragged myself out and decieded to leave the water to the rats.
Or in this case one rat who subsequently tripped over their own very long tail. LOL!
I’m sure we both know who I mean?!
Now to make it three in a row – yes – you got one up on me there, Tilly.
But I suspect you have had many more then one up on me over time ( at least 3 on this post!).
And I happily admit to that .......................................... well, ok, not HAPPILY but I guess I’m just too honest for my own good! LOL!
It is good to hear from you Tilly, and if you can bare the thought, you can email me ................................... ooopps, so sorry that’s your line LOL!
Best wishes to you and your family,
Shahnee
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wilsher
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| 12 Aug 2008 12:16 |
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yes, its not nice when you befriend someone,its not nice when you put your head on the line for them,its not nice when you face the crowd alone while all stay silent,
no its not nice when all you gladley do is pushed straight back at you in the form of a knife in the back,but hey people like me who come from old Gypsys whith old Gypsy ways take no heed, but its not nice,
still i'm glad you had your day,but sorry for risha as i'v been sorry for many,but hey she turned on me as did many,but hey the Romanys know my breed and time will judge |
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