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Beshilina
Posts:2


20 Feb 2008 16:58 Alert 
Afternoon all,

I am new to this site and looking to find information about my heritage. I know very little about the family past my great grandmother, but know we have Romany roots from somewhere. My great grandpa was a bare knuckle fighter and my mum used to shout at me in Romany when we were in public, so that others would not understand! Some of the family were Isish a few generations back.

Can anyone help me learn some new words, or some of the old ways of cooking and other craft bits?

Thanks,

Beshlie

Happiness to all
connors boy
Posts:0


29 Feb 2008 10:41 Alert 
hello beshlie did you mean some of your family was irish a few generations back if you did i can help you with a few words but i do know some romany words as well but you would be better to ask a romany or english travler because they would know more than me.
valerierackly
Posts:971


29 Feb 2008 15:19 Alert 
Beshlie;
If you know who your family is or where they where at a certain time may be that would be a better place to find your heritage, because knowing a language or culture is only benificial to you if it is part ofyour own life. What was your g-grandpa's name? What do you mean by romany roots? And hwat worrds do you use? as each family speaks a different dialect and they also have different cultures and values.

May the peace of the LORD be with you always. God Bless
Victor
Posts:166


01 Mar 2008 08:23 Alert 
My dear Beshlie I am a pure Rom, and I might help you with a few words, now my advice to you is we have a Roma Gypsy dictionary,this will help a lot, but I can only tell you a few words that are importent when you speak to a Gypsy, well here goes, Sar san, which means how are you, me sim Romni, which means I am Gypsy, te avas sasto ai baxtalo which means may you be with health and luck, but you say this to a male, to a female you say sasti ai baxtali, I hope this will help you some what. Victor.
Beshilina
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03 Mar 2008 16:09 Alert 
Thanks for your replies, I will answer them in one message, so I don't confuse myself. The interest in my heritage was mostly borne from the fact that I spent many years as a child in a distant relatives static caravan, being frightened with stories of eating hedgehogs. I know it sounds like the page of a book, but the great aunt twice removed (Or whatever she was) used to sell heather to the pubs in the town, while at the same time apparently driving a volvo! I was young when she died and her knowledge went with her, spare a few bits that got passed across my close family. The man who said he would teach me what he knew also died before I had the interest to learn, but I wanted to learn what I can before it gets lost entirely!

To:

connors boy: My Irish family were called Macklin, but I have little idea where they came from

The English side called Simmonds, from the London area.

valerierackly: The words we use at home are, I think, what is known as Romanichal. Things like dinlo, koshde bok, diddikai, gry, chav( which seems funny nowdays!) mandi, and so on, only the very basic bits.

Victor: Thank you for your help withe the words. Can you reccomend a good dictionary for me to get hold of and do you know if there are any books on the old customs? I understand that musch of these would have been closely held from what I know as gorgies.

Thanks to all of you for your help.

B


:)

Happiness to all
Victor
Posts:166


03 Mar 2008 18:16 Alert 
Dear Beshilina, the dictionary is just called as Gypsy/Roma dictionary, but i think you can only find it at London's bigest library, so good luck, I am proud of you, for trying to find your ancesters, and wanting to lear our Romany language.Victor
MightyLovelyMan
Posts:12


28 Apr 2008 11:14 Alert 
Beshilina,
God bless you. The words you typed were certainly the Romaness (sp) of the English gypsies or "Romanichal". I am very familiar with them. I too am trying to find out about my ancestors. Good luck - Kushty Bokt
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