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22 Aug 2011 08:59  
21st August 2011 By Star on Sunday reporter PADDY Doherty has left My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings in crisis after quitting the show half way through to go on Celebrity Big Brother. The former bare-knuckle fighter, 52, had filmed around two months’ worth of footage. Desperate show bosses fear the Channel 4 series will flop without its most popular character. An insider said last night: “Paddy was by far the most memorable and interesting character on the show. Everyone was shocked when he left. “Producers are scared it won’t make sense if he just disappears after a few episodes so they might have to scrap all of his scenes.”
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01 Sep 2011 09:31  
Gypsies threaten 'bloody' battle if eviction goes ahead Illegal ... residents of Dale Farm are set to be evicted Gypsies get ready for eviction siege TRAVELLERS at a notorious site put up barbed wire barricades after losing legal battle Real-life gypsy battles on film Gypsies set to sue Channel 4 Paddy’s Big Tat Gypsy Wedding Gypsy show’s big fat ratings GYPSIES camped on Europe's biggest traveller site have failed in a last-ditch legal bid to stop them from being evicted. Severely ill Mary Flynn, 72, went to the High Court today to try to stop a council ousting her and 80 other traveller families from Dale Farm in Cray's Hill, Basildon, Essex. But the court dismissed an application from her lawyers for a temporary injunction to stop Basildon Borough Council evicting the families from midnight. The travellers have promised a "bloody and violent" battle ahead of the arrival of bailiffs tonight. Basildon Council plans to evict the site's 240 residents following a decade long planning dispute. The council says around 50 per cent of six-acre Dale Farm has been developed without planning permission. Two other planning applications have been lodged in the hope of buying time for the travellers who are supported by actress and human rights campaigner Vanessa Redgrave. Activist Jake Fulton has joined 150 campaigners at Camp Constant, set up by supporters on the site. They promise to back the travellers through non-violent resistance. He said: "This could be a turning point for travelling communities across the country. "If Dale Farm residents succeed it could offer hope to hundreds but if they fail it could simply encourage councils to follow the example of Basildon Council." Police are prepared for a major operation after eviction notices were served on 52 unauthorised plots.
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02 Sep 2011 19:26  
Dear Vanessa Redgrave, I was proud to know that you stand with my people. by the way Iam an independed Activist, for my people through out the world,my name is Victor Vishnevsky, a pure Gypsy Lovari, I hope that this trouble will not get violent, as you may know we the Roma/Gypsies, are not violent by nature, I pray to God, that Human rights, of the U.N. will step in the dispute and make peace on both sides, I hope that good sence will prevail, from Brasil, Victor Vishnevsky.
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16 Sep 2011 18:51  
On Monday the camp is due to be demolished. As a Kale Roma (even if I am only a posh-rat) I am used to trying to explain the difference between ourselves and travellers. Even so, the events at Dale Farm have moved me. I stand in solidarity behind the travellers whose homes will soon be cruelly demolished.

mishto hom me dikava tuti
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16 Sep 2011 19:18  
I know I probably ought to have put this in the poetry section but I hope no one minds.

It's a poem I wrote about Dale Farm. I've painted a vision of how things will be once it's destroyed.

An Elegy for Dale Farm

How sad this place is now,
This ravaged corner of once living land
Where we once sheltered under the brow
Of homes we'd built with our own yearning hands.

Now we are thrown
Out of our dwellings, driven to despair
As yet again they force us to atone
For the crime of ever having dared to be there.

I gaze upon the ruined site,
While all around the desolation cries;
All vain our valiant fight
For justice against tyranny and lies.

How dead and loveless is this once loved place,
Awash with life and children's busy feet!
All gone the warm and welcoming embrace
As yet again the travellers must retreat.

Warm life embraced this cold and dismal place
And only tears now irrigate the ground;
Of all the travellers' homes there's not a trace,
Like foxes gone to earth, fleeing the hounds.

Oh bitter tears! Oh, we can testify
To all the love and laughter that once dwelt
Within these homes; no one can justify
The senseless slaughter that the haters dealt.

So yet again another song of hate
Has triumphed over kindness and its notes;
Another dream destroyed! Ah, far too late
You'll miss the music stifled in the throats
Of those who lived here once and did no harm,
The vanquished hero folk of Dale Farm.

mishto hom me dikava tuti
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18 Sep 2011 18:53  
Posted By ladylinda on 16 Sep 2011 18:51On Monday the camp is due to be demolished. As a Cale Roma (even if I am only a posh-rat) I am used to trying to explain the difference between ourselves and travellers. Even so, the events at Dale Farm have moved me. I stand in solidarity behind the travellers whose homes will soon be cruelly demolished. I think Monday will be a sad day for all of us. I've been fighting ignorance and prejudice about the Rom and travellers online for the last week or two but it looks as if Dale Farm is doomed. I'm very sad and I think Basildon council should bow their heads in shame.

mishto hom me dikava tuti
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27 Sep 2011 21:02  
My dear Ladylinda, your poem moved me very much. Now I ask were are our Roma/Gypsies intelectualls, or even the King that recently has been crowned, as i see it now the UN , the world comunity, to entefere, now and talked about the Dale farm, that once belonged to our Roma/ Gypsies, you are right the Basildon council, should, be responsible for this ubsurd act, or he might think that he is Berlisconi of Italy, or Sarkozy of France, no my dear he will pay for this act and very dearly, because I believe in God, and will pray for his doom
written by Victor Vishnevsky.
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29 Sep 2011 19:05  
Thank you for your kind words, Victor.

It's still not entirely clear what will happen - it now looks likely that about half of the homes will be allowed to stay.

I've been disgusted at the open racism that the media has allowed to be broadcast.

As for you, my friend, as always it's a  pleasure to hear from you!



mishto hom me dikava tuti
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30 Sep 2011 14:08  
My dear Ladaylinda, it is good to hear that at least half of the Daly farm will be saved, I think that you wrote alot of e~mails and that made the local council meet you half way, that is the way we should work, and I mean , not with violence, but politics let the world know, what is happening to us, Romane/Gypsies, write letters or e~mails, not only to the local counsil, but to the UN.the world comunity,and also to the main government, that in England, Discrimination is on the rise, these local council are a very cunning lot, they must be checked and double checked, I call this coruption, I said and I will say it again, that this mr. Basildon, and his groop will pay for this dearly
your friend always, Victor Vishnevsky
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15 Oct 2011 14:59  

Dale Farm travellers lose legal fight against eviction

By Kevin Rawlinson

Thursday, 13 October 2011


Residents of the UK's largest illegal Travellers' site have lost their fight against eviction after a High Court judge refused their applications to challenge the action in court, ending a 10-year legal battle.

Three linked applications for judicial reviews against the local council's decision to remove the Travellers from Greenbelt land they have been living on illegally for the past 10 years were turned down.

Basildon Council said yesterday that it had no set timetable to begin removals on 49 of the 54 plots but action was not expected to begin before Monday.

Giving his judgment, Mr Justice Ouseley said: "The conclusion has been reached time and again that this is just the wrong site for Travellers. It is the residents of Dale Farm who have to comply with the obligation to leave voluntarily. If the removal becomes forcible it would be because of decisions made by the residents not to comply.

"The criminal law applies equally to all – Travellers and others alike," he said.

The community will appeal against the ruling.

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17 Oct 2011 10:50  
As it seems the law only applies for the Gadje only, those who are about to make a huge profit for expeling the Roma/Gypsie from their site. again I say that the law is mostly of the rich, now is the time to act, do not leave one stone unturned, send our intelectuals to the Capital, and go to those people in the government who takes care of Roma/Gypsies , affairs go to some news papers and tell them our sad story who knows this might help, just to appeal were you are wont help unless, you people do what I have wrote above!
Victor Vishnevsky, Brazil
ladylinda
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20 Oct 2011 16:30  
I'm very sad, Victor. I've tried to persuade people to support the fight at Dale Farm but even a lot of Roma have been lukewarm. Too late for Dale Farm but we must try and stop another scandal like this.

mishto hom me dikava tuti
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27 Oct 2011 12:45  
my dear LadyLinda, yes I undearstand you perfectly well, I am sorry for those who lived on the Dale farm ! not that this comes as a surprise to me, you said that some Roma are lukewarm, well you can say that again, as i said I fight for our rights via my PC, e- mailing people and I mean importent people like the UN, and other good institutions, who claim that they fighting for us, and our rights, I do not believe that they fight enough, I am doing this over a decade, but, we the Roma are at fault, corupt . greed and selfish, one thing is for sure we are not united really, so we lost another round , who knows we might win the other,
te aves sasti ai baxtali ai sa tiri familia, O Victor
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26 Dec 2011 09:37  
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04 Feb 2012 12:09  

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21 Feb 2012 17:22  
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17 May 2012 14:11  

Travellers, homelessness and bricks and mortar

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Thursday 17 May 2012 by Nicholas Dobson

Basildon Borough Council did not act unlawfully when offering bricks and mortar accommodation to homeless former Dale Farm travellers. So found the Court of Appeal on 21 March 2012 in Sheridan and others v Basildon Borough Council 󞪌] EWCA Civ 335, which also usefully considered the extent of a housing authority’s homelessness duties in this context. Judgment was given by Patten LJ in which the chancellor of the High Court (Sir Andrew Morritt) and Pitchford LJ expressed one-line agreement.

The case concerned former residents of the unauthorised Dale Farm site which was subsequently lawfully cleared. All three appellants (Mr and Mrs Sheridan and their children and Mrs Flynn) were eligible for housing assistance, not intentionally homeless and were in priority need. They were therefore covered by section 193 of the Housing Act 1996 which (per section 193(2)) provides that, unless the authority refers the application to another housing authority, it ‘shall secure that accommodation is available for occupation by the applicant’.

Under section 206(1) a local housing authority may discharge its homelessness functions only as specified. This is by: (a) securing that suitable accommodation which it provides is available; (b) securing that the applicant obtains suitable accommodation from some other person; or (c) providing the applicant with ‘such advice and assistance as will secure that suitable accommodation is available from some other person’. Mr and Mrs Flynn were separated and made separate housing applications rather than be accommodated together.

Since there was no prospect of suitable accommodation being provided by a third party, the council made accommodation offers from within its housing reserve. The applicants were offered conventional bricks and mortar accommodation, but rejected this as unsuitable and sought a statutory review under section 202 of the 1996 act on the sole basis of aversion to such conventional accommodation.

As for Mr Sheridan, a report from a consultant psychiatrist concluded that there would be a significant risk of Mr Sheridan suffering psychiatric harm if forced to accept the accommodation in question and this ‘could amount to a death sentence for him’.

Regarding Mrs Sheridan, the report indicated the possibility that ‘her distress about what she would see as an impossible situation might drive her to deliberately harm herself’, albeit not with fatal intention.

Section 193 duty

The court noted that previous legislation dealing with the needs of gypsies and other travellers gave authorities no powers to override normal planning procedures. Similarly, the 1996 act is not legislation specifically designed to cater for the needs of gypsies and travellers. It contains ‘general statutory powers and duties designed to deal with the problems of homelessness’ and (per section 193) those having a priority need. As Patten LJ noted, section 193 (when read with section 206) requires ‘suitable accommodation’ to be made available to the eligible applicant. ‘Suitable’ means suitable as accommodation for the person to whom the duty is owed.

Relevant case law principles

The court noted various principles and approaches developed by the courts where (as at present) ‘the challenge to the suitability of the accommodation is not directed to the standard of the accommodation but to its type’. For instance, in Codona v Mid-Bedfordshire District Council 󞪄] EWCA Civ 925, the applicant was also a gypsy who refused conventional bricks and mortar accommodation. On the issue of whether a present lack of available land for use as a caravan site should be taken into account in deciding whether the bricks and mortar accommodation offered to Mrs Codona and her family was suitable, Auld LJ (among other things) noted from relevant case law and otherwise that:

  • ‘…suitability has to take account of practicality. There is no point in… [an] authority being required to provide sites which do not exist’.
  • ‘…suitability is not itself an absolute concept. It may have various levels, though there is a Wednesburyminimum depending on the circumstances of each case, below which it cannot fall’.
  • Although financial constraints and limited housing stock can be taken into account in determining suitability (per Collins J in R v Newham LBC, ex parte Ojuri (No 3) 󞩾] HLR 452): ‘There is a minimum and one must look at the needs and circumstances of the particular family and decide what is suitable for them, and there will be a line to be drawn below which the standard of accommodation cannot fall.’
  • If the accommodation falls below that line, and is accommodation which no reasonable authority could consider to be suitable to the needs of the applicant, then the decision will be struck down, and an appeal to the resources argument will be of no avail (see Dyson J in R v Newham London Borough Council, ex parte Sacupima and others (26 November 1999)).
  • Where a local housing authority is shown to be doing all it could, ‘the court would not make an order to force it to do the impossible’.
  • Suitability should be regarded as an elastic concept, with Wednesbury marking the line below which no reasonable authority could consider accommodation to be reasonable.
  • Per the 18 January 2001 decision of the European Court of Human Rights in Chapman v UK (App No 27238/95): ‘The vulnerable position of gypsies as a minority means that some special consideration should be given to their needs and their different lifestyle both in the relevant regulatory planning framework and in arriving at decisions in particular cases.’
  • According to Newman J in R (Margaret Price) v Carmarthenshire County Council 󞪃] EWHC 42 (Admin): ‘In order to meet the requirement to accord respect, something more than “taking account” of an ­applicant’s gypsy culture is required. As the court in Chapman stated, respect includes the positive obligation to act so as to facilitate the gypsy way of life, without being under a duty to guarantee it to an applicant in any particular case.’
  • Again, per Price, article 8 (right to respect for private and family life) of the European Convention on Human Rights does require an authority to carefully examine a gypsy’s claim for special consideration and, if satisfied that it is genuine, whether in all the circumstances it should attempt to meet it and if so how.
  • However, if despite such consideration (including appropriate and genuine ‘consideration of ways and means of meeting the gypsy’s claim’), a failure to provide a caravan site or pitch would only breach statutory duty (section 193) or article 8 if the offer fell below the Wednesbury minimum line.
  • Consequently, where suitable land is not available to meet traveller requirements, ‘it is open to a local authority to provide other accommodation of the conventional bricks and mortar kind, providing that it satisfies the Wednesbury minimum line of ­suitability’.

Patten LJ also noted from the judgment of Longmore LJ in Lee v Rhondda Cynon Taf County Borough Council 󞪈] EWCA Civ 1013 that, since homelessness applications are expected to be determined within a short timescale using existing resources, and since acquiring a new caravan site will involve potentially lengthy planning processes, to expect a housing authority to do so where appropriate in the discharge of its homelessness duty would be inconsistent with the promptness and otherwise required by the relevant statutory scheme.

Potential psychiatric harm

But what of potential psychiatric harm in respect of the homeless applicant? Patten LJ considered that a cultural aversion to bricks and mortar is ­insufficient to make such an ­accommodation offer Wednesburyunreasonable even if it may risk bouts of depression. In relation to Mrs Sheridan, it is ‘reasonable for those to be treated if they occur in just the same way as she has sought and obtained treatment for depression in the past’. His lordship said that the physical separation of Mr and Mrs Sheridan is the inevitable result of their lawful removal from Dale Farm, ­coupled with their decision not to seek joint accommodation as a single family unit. Given that the risk of psychiatric harm was an existing problem which would not be avoided within the terms of their separate accommodation applications, it was not Wednesburyunreasonable for the council to ­proceed on the basis that the ­psychiatric problems should be dealt with through use of local NHS services.

Available sites

The complaint was that, since the council had consciously chosen not to make adequate site provision for ­gypsies and travellers within its area, it could not rely on the absence of ­available sites as a relevant factor in assessing the suitability of offered accommodation.

Nevertheless, while Patten LJ acknowledged that the points raised were ‘powerful’, he was not persuaded that this could be addressed through a homelessness appeal to the county court (section 204 of the Housing Act 1996). For it would be ‘completely unrealistic’ for a housing officer on a section 202 review to conduct a ­general inquiry into homelessness strategy and the adequacy of site ­provision. This would involve matters outside housing officer expertise and would require detailed and probably extensive evidence. The review must have been intended to have a much narrower focus of whether the accommodation offer from within the authority’s existing resources adequately met the applicants’ needs. The court, also on the evidence, accepted that the council had taken the necessary reasonable steps to identify a possible site or sites on which the appellants could live in their caravans.

In the circumstances and on the evidence, the Court of Appeal found no error of law in the council’s relevant decisions and therefore dismissed the appeals.

Dr Nicholas Dobson is a senior consultant with Pannone specialising in local and public law. He is also communications officer for the Association of Council Secretaries and Solicitors

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