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GeorgeInSurrey
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11 May 2009 20:23  
Great site!

I enjoy reading the posts and remembering all those Romany words.

It's interesting for me to get re-aquainted with the (almost) forgotten language of my early childhood. As my ancestors gave up travelling more than 160 years ago. The last full blood Romany in my family was my grandmother, I remember well when my aunts would visit my mother and the conversation would be unintelligible to my father. Then we moved away and the visits were less frequent, so standard English was put to use more.

Unlike my siblings, the Romany genes show strong in me. Wherever I travel throughout Europe as far east as Kiev and as far west as Portugal, any Romanies never fail to recognise their kin and when in England any travellers I meet are usually very curious as I speak standard English without accent and I get asked all sorts of questions about my heritage, family name, relatives etc.

So I guess I have gorga ways and a Gypsy face. And always getting reminded about it.

So there you are, that's how it is for some of your long lost kin.

George
rawny
Posts:85


12 May 2009 05:13  
Hi George good to meet ya , are you getting back to your roots or just curious about the site , what name was your granny you might be able to find out more info about the family
GeorgeInSurrey
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12 May 2009 08:33  
Hi Rawny, my granny's name was Rachel Cooper. Her ancestors arrived and made camp in Upper Norwood in South London in the 1850's I've no idea where they came from before that.

Yes it would be interesting to discover what happened to the other Coopers from that locale and era.
Chris WS
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12 May 2009 14:45  
Hello George and welcome, I have a aunt Glad who was a Cooper before she married my Mother's brother, Bill Frankham, all her people came from the New Forest.
rawny
Posts:85


12 May 2009 16:56  
Hi George i think they do a genealogy page on here maybe someone could find out a bit about her family for you ,if you were interested there are other sites like rootschat thats good aswell for finding family, im researching mine .
GeorgeInSurrey
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13 May 2009 09:18  
I guess we all must be related in some way or another from those few who came to these shores over the last 500 years or so.

I would suppose that Cooper (wheel maker) would be a very common name amongst the Romany? as is Smith (metal worker) and surnames may have changed from generation to generation as the sons chose different professions from their fathers.

As I said, I can trace my ancestors back to the 1850's in Upper Norwood, not that I've done any formal research as such, just taken from the stories that my grandmother told us. Most of her fathers decendents I know of, one branch lives on site in Croydon somewhere, though I've never met them.

The others have all now become gorga and all but forgotton their roots, I guess I would have forgotton too but for the comments I get about my appearance from the Romanies I meet.  After the passing of my mothers and aunts generation there are non of them who speak any Romany.

My real interest in Romany culture is in language, customs and crafts, as a little of this was imparted to me in my childhood.
cathayb
Posts:120


13 May 2009 12:49  
i think coopers were barrel makers and as far asi know the name is still given to barrel makers.
Moderator
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13 May 2009 14:45  
Hello George and welcome to the site hope you enjoy it :)))
xrosiex
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15 May 2009 02:01  
hello Goerge
just wanted to say hello and add my weclome to everyone elses
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05/11/2009 8:23 PM  
Great site!

I enjoy reading the posts and remembering all those Romany words.

It's interesting for me to get re-aquainted with the (almost) forgotten language of my early childhood. As my ancestors gave up travelling more than 160 years ago. The last full blood Romany in my family was my grandmother, I remember well when my aunts would visit my mother and the conversation would be unintelligible to my father. Then we moved away and the visits were less frequent, so standard English was put to use more.

Unlike my siblings, the Romany genes show strong in me. Wherever I travel throughout Europe as far east as Kiev and as far west as Portugal, any Romanies never fail to recognise their kin and when in England any travellers I meet are usually very curious as I speak standard English without accent and I get asked all sorts of questions about my heritage, family name, relatives etc.

So I guess I have gorga ways and a Gypsy face. And always getting reminded about it.

So there you are, that's how it is for some of your long lost kin.

George
rawnyUser is Offline

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05/12/2009 5:13 AM  
Hi George good to meet ya , are you getting back to your roots or just curious about the site , what name was your granny you might be able to find out more info about the family
GeorgeInSurreyUser is Offline

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05/12/2009 8:33 AM  
Hi Rawny, my granny's name was Rachel Cooper. Her ancestors arrived and made camp in Upper Norwood in South London in the 1850's I've no idea where they came from before that.

Yes it would be interesting to discover what happened to the other Coopers from that locale and era.
Chris WSUser is Offline

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05/12/2009 2:45 PM  
Hello George and welcome, I have a aunt Glad who was a Cooper before she married my Mother's brother, Bill Frankham, all her people came from the New Forest.
rawnyUser is Offline

Posts:85

05/12/2009 4:56 PM  
Hi George i think they do a genealogy page on here maybe someone could find out a bit about her family for you ,if you were interested there are other sites like rootschat thats good aswell for finding family, im researching mine .
GeorgeInSurreyUser is Offline

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05/13/2009 9:18 AM  
I guess we all must be related in some way or another from those few who came to these shores over the last 500 years or so.

I would suppose that Cooper (wheel maker) would be a very common name amongst the Romany? as is Smith (metal worker) and surnames may have changed from generation to generation as the sons chose different professions from their fathers.

As I said, I can trace my ancestors back to the 1850's in Upper Norwood, not that I've done any formal research as such, just taken from the stories that my grandmother told us. Most of her fathers decendents I know of, one branch lives on site in Croydon somewhere, though I've never met them.

The others have all now become gorga and all but forgotton their roots, I guess I would have forgotton too but for the comments I get about my appearance from the Romanies I meet.  After the passing of my mothers and aunts generation there are non of them who speak any Romany.

My real interest in Romany culture is in language, customs and crafts, as a little of this was imparted to me in my childhood.
cathaybUser is Offline

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05/13/2009 12:49 PM  
i think coopers were barrel makers and as far asi know the name is still given to barrel makers.
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05/13/2009 2:45 PM  
Hello George and welcome to the site hope you enjoy it :)))
xrosiexUser is Offline

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05/15/2009 2:01 AM  
hello Goerge
just wanted to say hello and add my weclome to everyone elses
---rosie----
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