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11 May 2010 16:06  
THIS IS AN EMAIL I RECEIVED CAN ANY ONE HELP THIS CHAP ?

Hi,
First of all let me say what a brilliant website you have.  It''s well presented, provides clear and well researched information and is generally very interesting - well done!

Now to my point - I wonder if you might be able to help me!  I''m a freelance photographer and I''ve been commissioned by the BBC to   an ''audio slideshow'' for their website about the Appleby Horse Fair in Cumbria.  I''d like to get a ''behind the scenes'' look at the fair and meet some people who would be happy to be interviewed and photographed and might be able to show me around the fair.  The slideshow would aim to represent the horse fair and its participants in a positive light - a traditional way of life that is dynamic and thriving in an ever changing world.  Ideally I would like to do a "day in the life" type piece, perhaps follow someone around for a day with their horse, possibly looking for a buyer, that kind of thing.  If you know anyone that I could get in touch with that could help me, I would be very grateful for your assistance.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Steve
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04 Jun 2010 06:13  

Gypsies travel to Appleby 'Mecca' in Cumbria

Page last updated at 2:17 GMT, Friday, 4 June 2010 3:17 UK


Horses in the River Eden The Appleby Horse Fair has drawn Gypsies and travellers to Cumbria since 1685

Beside a convoy of cars, caravans and horse boxes, a Roma Gypsy and his family are gathering wood for a campfire to cook their morning meal.

Billy Welch, 49, has pulled over on his way to the Appleby Horse Fair in Cumbria, which opened on Thursday.

"When you arrive in Appleby and see the mountains, the scenery in the background, you feel closer to God," he said.

"It's a sacred place to the travelling community. Like Mecca is to Islam, that's what Appleby is to us."

The event has taken place since 1685 and last year it attracted more than 40,000 visitors, transforming a town that has a population of just 2,500.

Hundreds of horses and carts traditionally line the streets and wade in the River Eden while a temporary caravan site overlooking the town is set up on Fair Hill.

  • The event runs from 3-10 June
  • Appleby has a population of 2,500
  • 40,000 visitors are expected
  • 1,500 caravans and horse-drawn vehicles are predicted

Gypsy travellers come from around the world to socialise and trade during the event.

Traditional activities include cart racing and dunking - which involves horses heads being dipped into the river before being returned to dry land and put on sale.

But the event has not been without controversy in recent years.

At last year's fair a mass brawl resulted in 27 arrests and police seized counterfeit goods with a street value of £250,000.

Some residents complained about vandalism, barn break-ins, illegal grazing and intimidation by visitors.

Mr Welch, who first attended the fair aged two months, blamed problems in previous years on a "small minority of trouble causers".

The event, which is expected to peak on Sunday, provides the local economy with what a county council spokesman described as a "considerable boost".

Despite this, there have been complaints from local people.

Fair 'mayhem'

Jonathan Bell, 18, a student who works at a grocery store in the town centre, said: "Me and my mates don't go into town because there's normally drunken fights, and it can be intimidating."

He added: "It will be absolute gridlock on the roads, which is a bit of a nuisance, but on the plus side I will be getting lots of overtime because of how busy it is."

Horse and cart in Appleby There is an increased police presence at this year's event

He said that some Appleby residents had been stocking up on groceries to avoid the town centre during the "mayhem" of the fair.

An increase in police numbers is planned for this year's event, and a warning not to bring weapons has been issued after knives and BB guns were seized last year.

There has also been controversy within the Gypsy community, with many complaining that police had blocked off some lay-bys to prevent them stopping off at non-designated areas.

A Facebook page called Save the Appleby Horse Fair was set up, attracting more than 2,800 members with many posts accusing the authorities of racism towards Gypsies.

The committee which runs the fair - consisting of police, the council, the Gypsy groups and the emergency services - has rejected these claims.

Kevin Douglas, the chairman of the committee, said: "A lot of incorrect information has been bandied about concerning Appleby Fair this year.

"Our work is not about closing the Fair down, but returning it to its traditional origins and balancing the needs of Gypsies and travellers and the settled community."

Mr Welch, who also sits on the organising committee, said: "This is the last major fair left in the world for Gypsies. It is vital for our culture.

"It is not just a place to meet and trade, but a place to make friends and for young people to court - husbands meet wives at this fair.

"It is about a sense of place for us, a sense of belonging. Every Gypsy in the world comes to Appleby at least once in their lifetime."

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04 Jun 2010 06:14  

Horse passport advice for Appleby Fair traders

Travellers en-route to Appleby
The annual event is one of the largest of its kind in Europe

Traders visiting the Appleby Horse Fair 2010 are urged to obtain a Horse Passport.

Animal Health and Welfare Inspectors from Trading Standards will be raising awareness of the Horse Passport Regulations during the fair in June.

When a horse is sold the passport, which identifies the animal and proves ownership, is given to the new owner.

The fair is an annual gathering of Gypsies and travellers in Eden Valley. The 2010 fair runs from 3 to 9 June.

Organisers say horses at or on their way to Appleby, one of the largest events of its kind in Europe, must be accompanied by their passport.

New rules introduced from 1 July 2009 mean all foals born after that date, and any horses that have not previously been issued with a passport, must also be micro-chipped.

Organisers have warned any horse found straying at the fair, or taken into possession by the police, will be difficult to return to its owner if they do not have a passport as it is a definitive proof of ownership.

Proving ownership

Organisers have also reminded owners that it is an offence to cause unnecessary suffering to any animal.

They say animals can only be transported if they are fit for their intended journey and the vehicle used is constructed in a way that will not cause injury or suffering.

Graham Winder, lead officer for animal health and welfare at Cumbria County Council's Trading Standards, said: "Horse owners have a duty to the animal to make sure it is registered and has a passport. People who don't do this are leaving themselves vulnerable to proving ownership.

"I would urge all people at the fair, whether they own a horse or are thinking of buying one that they don't buy or sell one without a passport."

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05 Jun 2010 04:00  
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05 Jun 2010 05:59  

Appleby Horse Fair not under threat, say organisers

Organisers of Appleby Horse Fair have moved to quash an internet campaign speculating that the historic event is under threat.

Billy 
Welch photo
Billy Welch

A Facebook group was set up last week raising concerns about stopping points en route to the fair being blocked off, under the name Save Appleby Fair.

It led to some of the 2,250 members of the group speculating that the centuries-old fair could be closed down in the coming years.

Now Billy Welch, a spokesman for the gypsy and traveller community, has publicly stated that the multi agency strategic co-ordinating group which organises the fair had no plans to shut it down. He said: “I attend all the meetings about the Fair and if the rest of the gypsy and traveller community could see how passionate the co-ordinating group are about preserving the Fair, they would ignore all of these rumours which are going about.

“The measures being introduced are common sense, but there will be the odd occasion when someone has a genuine complaint and if so let me know. I have 100 per cent confidence in the multi-agency group and will continue to be a part of it and monitor what is being done. There is no hidden agenda to end Appleby Fair – these rumours are complete nonsense.”

He added: “The group is working very hard to preserve, protect and improve the Fair. It isn’t just about gypsies and travellers, it is also about the settled community.”

Kevin Douglas, chair of the group, added that gypsies and travellers heading to Eden were not being prevented from stopping in lay-bys, and that restrictions had only been put in place where problems had arisen in 2009.

The group provides skips and toilets at its designated stopping points around the Eden and South Lakeland districts of Cumbria.

Travellers have been warned they will not be allowed onto Fair Hill until 4am on June 3, the day the fair starts, and may not camp within 1.5 miles of the fair until that time.

Meanwhile, police forces in Cumbria and County Durham have urged drivers to take care on the roads ahead of the annual fair. In the build-up to the event, which this year runs from June 3 to 9, some single carriageway roads, including parts of the A66, can suffer from tailbacks of traffic behind horse-drawn bow-top caravans.

Steve Bishop, A66 route manager for the Highways Agency said: “Despite the use of special warning signs and speed enforcement, tragically since June 2003 there have been two fatal and one serious injury collision involving horse drawn caravans on the A66 travelling to and from the Fair. It is paramount that motorists take special care due to the presence of slow moving vehicles.”

Extra signs will be put up alongside the A66 to minimise danger for drivers, and increased patrols and traffic officers will be stationed on the cross-country route.

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06 Jun 2010 05:59  

Appleby Fair travellers settling in at new Sedbergh campsite


A NEW campsite at Sedbergh for gipsies and travellers to use en route to Appleby Horse Fair has been hailed a success by the travelling community.

A farmer’s field at Scrogg Bank, on the A683, opened for the first time on Monday and is filling up fast with families, their caravans and horses.

This is the newest of the four ‘managed campsites’ set up by the Multi Agency Strategic Co-ordinating Group, the organisation that oversees the fair.

The field can accommodate up to 65 caravans and has portable toilets and a skip.

South Lakeland District Council’s environmental health officer has also been handing out black bin liners for the travellers’ rubbish.

Police and South Lakeland District Council said the new campsite should reduce anti-social behaviour and disorder which local residents claim blighted their lives last year.

“Last year we had 68 calls to the police from residents over four weeks during the fair,” said PC Roly Earl.

“There were horses running on the road, caravans blocking driveways and fly-tipping, so the designated campsite is a justified reaction.

“The gipsies and travellers are surprised at how pleasant the site is and the facilities we have provided for them.

"It is a change for them, as last year they were camping on the grass verges, but this is much safer and the feedback I’ve had has been very positive.”

Traveller Janet Wilson, who arrived at the site on Monday, said: “The kids weren’t safe last year. It’s a good do this, it’s great.

"We all went mad when we heard we’d have to stay in here, but as it turns out it’s good.”

Billy Wilson, from West Yorkshire, said: “There’s no complaints from me.

"The police and council have been very nice, handing out bin bags and trying to help us, so we’re happy. This is a nice campsite we’ve got here.”

Police have also announced a zero tolerance approach to violence and disorder at this year’s fair, after a high number of weapons were seized last year.

More Appleby stories

Traveller Robert Miller at the new campsite in Sedbergh. RIGHT AT HOME: William Tailforth, Robert Coates, Valerie 
Coates and Anthony Brown RIGHT AT HOME: Feeding time for a new arrival RIGHT AT HOME: Janet Davies chats to SLDC’s John Barwise 
and PC Roly Earl

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pompey
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06 Jun 2010 07:07  
Seems like the giorga gets some things right? nice to see both sides getting on and shows that the non gypsy side to go out of their way to accomadate after all most non gypsies going would have booked in advance into camp sites or b&b and have to pay as they would anywhere they visit and yet we make special arrangements and often for free for the travelling community so I think
they should apreciaate abit more when we get it right and they get services for free and the gorga dont kick up a stink about it unlike if the shoe was on the other foot!!
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05/11/2010 4:06 PM  
THIS IS AN EMAIL I RECEIVED CAN ANY ONE HELP THIS CHAP ?

Hi,
First of all let me say what a brilliant website you have.  It''s well presented, provides clear and well researched information and is generally very interesting - well done!

Now to my point - I wonder if you might be able to help me!  I''m a freelance photographer and I''ve been commissioned by the BBC to   an ''audio slideshow'' for their website about the Appleby Horse Fair in Cumbria.  I''d like to get a ''behind the scenes'' look at the fair and meet some people who would be happy to be interviewed and photographed and might be able to show me around the fair.  The slideshow would aim to represent the horse fair and its participants in a positive light - a traditional way of life that is dynamic and thriving in an ever changing world.  Ideally I would like to do a "day in the life" type piece, perhaps follow someone around for a day with their horse, possibly looking for a buyer, that kind of thing.  If you know anyone that I could get in touch with that could help me, I would be very grateful for your assistance.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Steve
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06/04/2010 6:13 AM  

Gypsies travel to Appleby 'Mecca' in Cumbria

Page last updated at 2:17 GMT, Friday, 4 June 2010 3:17 UK


Horses in the River Eden The Appleby Horse Fair has drawn Gypsies and travellers to Cumbria since 1685

Beside a convoy of cars, caravans and horse boxes, a Roma Gypsy and his family are gathering wood for a campfire to cook their morning meal.

Billy Welch, 49, has pulled over on his way to the Appleby Horse Fair in Cumbria, which opened on Thursday.

"When you arrive in Appleby and see the mountains, the scenery in the background, you feel closer to God," he said.

"It's a sacred place to the travelling community. Like Mecca is to Islam, that's what Appleby is to us."

The event has taken place since 1685 and last year it attracted more than 40,000 visitors, transforming a town that has a population of just 2,500.

Hundreds of horses and carts traditionally line the streets and wade in the River Eden while a temporary caravan site overlooking the town is set up on Fair Hill.

  • The event runs from 3-10 June
  • Appleby has a population of 2,500
  • 40,000 visitors are expected
  • 1,500 caravans and horse-drawn vehicles are predicted

Gypsy travellers come from around the world to socialise and trade during the event.

Traditional activities include cart racing and dunking - which involves horses heads being dipped into the river before being returned to dry land and put on sale.

But the event has not been without controversy in recent years.

At last year's fair a mass brawl resulted in 27 arrests and police seized counterfeit goods with a street value of £250,000.

Some residents complained about vandalism, barn break-ins, illegal grazing and intimidation by visitors.

Mr Welch, who first attended the fair aged two months, blamed problems in previous years on a "small minority of trouble causers".

The event, which is expected to peak on Sunday, provides the local economy with what a county council spokesman described as a "considerable boost".

Despite this, there have been complaints from local people.

Fair 'mayhem'

Jonathan Bell, 18, a student who works at a grocery store in the town centre, said: "Me and my mates don't go into town because there's normally drunken fights, and it can be intimidating."

He added: "It will be absolute gridlock on the roads, which is a bit of a nuisance, but on the plus side I will be getting lots of overtime because of how busy it is."

Horse and cart in Appleby There is an increased police presence at this year's event

He said that some Appleby residents had been stocking up on groceries to avoid the town centre during the "mayhem" of the fair.

An increase in police numbers is planned for this year's event, and a warning not to bring weapons has been issued after knives and BB guns were seized last year.

There has also been controversy within the Gypsy community, with many complaining that police had blocked off some lay-bys to prevent them stopping off at non-designated areas.

A Facebook page called Save the Appleby Horse Fair was set up, attracting more than 2,800 members with many posts accusing the authorities of racism towards Gypsies.

The committee which runs the fair - consisting of police, the council, the Gypsy groups and the emergency services - has rejected these claims.

Kevin Douglas, the chairman of the committee, said: "A lot of incorrect information has been bandied about concerning Appleby Fair this year.

"Our work is not about closing the Fair down, but returning it to its traditional origins and balancing the needs of Gypsies and travellers and the settled community."

Mr Welch, who also sits on the organising committee, said: "This is the last major fair left in the world for Gypsies. It is vital for our culture.

"It is not just a place to meet and trade, but a place to make friends and for young people to court - husbands meet wives at this fair.

"It is about a sense of place for us, a sense of belonging. Every Gypsy in the world comes to Appleby at least once in their lifetime."

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06/04/2010 6:14 AM  

Horse passport advice for Appleby Fair traders

Travellers en-route to Appleby
The annual event is one of the largest of its kind in Europe

Traders visiting the Appleby Horse Fair 2010 are urged to obtain a Horse Passport.

Animal Health and Welfare Inspectors from Trading Standards will be raising awareness of the Horse Passport Regulations during the fair in June.

When a horse is sold the passport, which identifies the animal and proves ownership, is given to the new owner.

The fair is an annual gathering of Gypsies and travellers in Eden Valley. The 2010 fair runs from 3 to 9 June.

Organisers say horses at or on their way to Appleby, one of the largest events of its kind in Europe, must be accompanied by their passport.

New rules introduced from 1 July 2009 mean all foals born after that date, and any horses that have not previously been issued with a passport, must also be micro-chipped.

Organisers have warned any horse found straying at the fair, or taken into possession by the police, will be difficult to return to its owner if they do not have a passport as it is a definitive proof of ownership.

Proving ownership

Organisers have also reminded owners that it is an offence to cause unnecessary suffering to any animal.

They say animals can only be transported if they are fit for their intended journey and the vehicle used is constructed in a way that will not cause injury or suffering.

Graham Winder, lead officer for animal health and welfare at Cumbria County Council's Trading Standards, said: "Horse owners have a duty to the animal to make sure it is registered and has a passport. People who don't do this are leaving themselves vulnerable to proving ownership.

"I would urge all people at the fair, whether they own a horse or are thinking of buying one that they don't buy or sell one without a passport."

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06/05/2010 5:59 AM  

Appleby Horse Fair not under threat, say organisers

Organisers of Appleby Horse Fair have moved to quash an internet campaign speculating that the historic event is under threat.

Billy 
Welch photo
Billy Welch

A Facebook group was set up last week raising concerns about stopping points en route to the fair being blocked off, under the name Save Appleby Fair.

It led to some of the 2,250 members of the group speculating that the centuries-old fair could be closed down in the coming years.

Now Billy Welch, a spokesman for the gypsy and traveller community, has publicly stated that the multi agency strategic co-ordinating group which organises the fair had no plans to shut it down. He said: “I attend all the meetings about the Fair and if the rest of the gypsy and traveller community could see how passionate the co-ordinating group are about preserving the Fair, they would ignore all of these rumours which are going about.

“The measures being introduced are common sense, but there will be the odd occasion when someone has a genuine complaint and if so let me know. I have 100 per cent confidence in the multi-agency group and will continue to be a part of it and monitor what is being done. There is no hidden agenda to end Appleby Fair – these rumours are complete nonsense.”

He added: “The group is working very hard to preserve, protect and improve the Fair. It isn’t just about gypsies and travellers, it is also about the settled community.”

Kevin Douglas, chair of the group, added that gypsies and travellers heading to Eden were not being prevented from stopping in lay-bys, and that restrictions had only been put in place where problems had arisen in 2009.

The group provides skips and toilets at its designated stopping points around the Eden and South Lakeland districts of Cumbria.

Travellers have been warned they will not be allowed onto Fair Hill until 4am on June 3, the day the fair starts, and may not camp within 1.5 miles of the fair until that time.

Meanwhile, police forces in Cumbria and County Durham have urged drivers to take care on the roads ahead of the annual fair. In the build-up to the event, which this year runs from June 3 to 9, some single carriageway roads, including parts of the A66, can suffer from tailbacks of traffic behind horse-drawn bow-top caravans.

Steve Bishop, A66 route manager for the Highways Agency said: “Despite the use of special warning signs and speed enforcement, tragically since June 2003 there have been two fatal and one serious injury collision involving horse drawn caravans on the A66 travelling to and from the Fair. It is paramount that motorists take special care due to the presence of slow moving vehicles.”

Extra signs will be put up alongside the A66 to minimise danger for drivers, and increased patrols and traffic officers will be stationed on the cross-country route.

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06/06/2010 5:59 AM  

Appleby Fair travellers settling in at new Sedbergh campsite


A NEW campsite at Sedbergh for gipsies and travellers to use en route to Appleby Horse Fair has been hailed a success by the travelling community.

A farmer’s field at Scrogg Bank, on the A683, opened for the first time on Monday and is filling up fast with families, their caravans and horses.

This is the newest of the four ‘managed campsites’ set up by the Multi Agency Strategic Co-ordinating Group, the organisation that oversees the fair.

The field can accommodate up to 65 caravans and has portable toilets and a skip.

South Lakeland District Council’s environmental health officer has also been handing out black bin liners for the travellers’ rubbish.

Police and South Lakeland District Council said the new campsite should reduce anti-social behaviour and disorder which local residents claim blighted their lives last year.

“Last year we had 68 calls to the police from residents over four weeks during the fair,” said PC Roly Earl.

“There were horses running on the road, caravans blocking driveways and fly-tipping, so the designated campsite is a justified reaction.

“The gipsies and travellers are surprised at how pleasant the site is and the facilities we have provided for them.

"It is a change for them, as last year they were camping on the grass verges, but this is much safer and the feedback I’ve had has been very positive.”

Traveller Janet Wilson, who arrived at the site on Monday, said: “The kids weren’t safe last year. It’s a good do this, it’s great.

"We all went mad when we heard we’d have to stay in here, but as it turns out it’s good.”

Billy Wilson, from West Yorkshire, said: “There’s no complaints from me.

"The police and council have been very nice, handing out bin bags and trying to help us, so we’re happy. This is a nice campsite we’ve got here.”

Police have also announced a zero tolerance approach to violence and disorder at this year’s fair, after a high number of weapons were seized last year.

More Appleby stories

Traveller Robert Miller at the new campsite in Sedbergh. RIGHT AT HOME: William Tailforth, Robert Coates, Valerie 
Coates and Anthony Brown RIGHT AT HOME: Feeding time for a new arrival RIGHT AT HOME: Janet Davies chats to SLDC’s John Barwise 
and PC Roly Earl

Buy this photo icon Buy this photo » RIGHT AT HOME: Traveller Robert Miller at the new campsite in Sedbergh

Buy this photo icon Buy this photo » RIGHT AT HOME: William Tailforth, Robert Coates, Valerie Coates and Anthony Brown

Buy this photo icon Buy this photo » RIGHT AT HOME: Feeding time for a new arrival

Buy this photo icon Buy this photo » RIGHT AT HOME: Janet Davies chats to SLDC’s John Barwise and PC Roly Earl




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06/06/2010 7:07 AM  
Seems like the giorga gets some things right? nice to see both sides getting on and shows that the non gypsy side to go out of their way to accomadate after all most non gypsies going would have booked in advance into camp sites or b&b and have to pay as they would anywhere they visit and yet we make special arrangements and often for free for the travelling community so I think
they should apreciaate abit more when we get it right and they get services for free and the gorga dont kick up a stink about it unlike if the shoe was on the other foot!!
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