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THIS IS AN EMAIL I RECEIVED CAN ANY ONE HELP THIS CHAP ?
Hi,
First of all let me say what a brilliant website you have. It''s well
presented, provides clear and well researched information and is
generally very interesting - well done!
Now to my point - I wonder if you might be able to help me! I''m a
freelance photographer and I''ve been commissioned by the BBC to an
''audio slideshow'' for their website about the Appleby Horse Fair in
Cumbria. I''d like to get a ''behind the scenes'' look at the fair and
meet some people who would be happy to be interviewed and photographed
and might be able to show me around the fair. The slideshow would aim
to represent the horse fair and its participants in a positive light - a
traditional way of life that is dynamic and thriving in an ever
changing world. Ideally I would like to do a "day in the life" type
piece, perhaps follow someone around for a day with their horse,
possibly looking for a buyer, that kind of thing. If you know anyone
that I could get in touch with that could help me, I would be very
grateful for your assistance.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Steve
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Gypsies travel to Appleby 'Mecca' in Cumbria
Page last updated at 2:17
GMT, Friday, 4 June 2010 3:17 UK
By Lee Morgan
BBC News
The Appleby Horse Fair has drawn Gypsies and travellers to Cumbria
since 1685
Beside a convoy of cars,
caravans and horse boxes, a Roma Gypsy and his family are gathering wood
for a campfire to cook their morning meal.
Billy Welch, 49, has pulled over on his way to the Appleby
Horse Fair in Cumbria, which opened on Thursday.
"When you arrive in Appleby and see the mountains, the scenery
in the background, you feel closer to God," he said.
"It's a sacred place to the travelling community. Like Mecca is
to Islam, that's what Appleby is to us."
The event has taken place since 1685 and last year it attracted
more than 40,000 visitors, transforming a town that has a population of
just 2,500.
Hundreds of horses and carts traditionally line the streets and
wade in the River Eden while a temporary caravan site overlooking the
town is set up on Fair Hill.
Continue
reading the main story
- The event runs from 3-10 June
- Appleby has a population of 2,500
- 40,000 visitors are expected
- 1,500 caravans and horse-drawn vehicles are predicted
Gypsy travellers come from around the world to socialise and
trade during the event.
Traditional activities include cart racing and dunking - which
involves horses heads being dipped into the river before being returned
to dry land and put on sale.
But the event has not been without controversy in recent years.
At last year's fair a mass brawl resulted in 27 arrests and
police seized counterfeit goods with a street value of £250,000.
Some residents complained about vandalism, barn break-ins,
illegal grazing and intimidation by visitors.
Mr Welch, who first attended the fair aged two months, blamed
problems in previous years on a "small minority of trouble causers".
The event, which is expected to peak on Sunday, provides the
local economy with what a county council spokesman described as a
"considerable boost".
Despite this, there have been complaints from local people.
Fair 'mayhem'
Jonathan Bell, 18, a student who works at a grocery store in
the town centre, said: "Me and my mates don't go into town because
there's normally drunken fights, and it can be intimidating."
He added: "It will be absolute gridlock on the roads, which is a
bit of a nuisance, but on the plus side I will be getting lots of
overtime because of how busy it is."
There is an increased police presence at this year's event
He said that some Appleby residents had been stocking up on
groceries to avoid the town centre during the "mayhem" of the fair.
An increase in police numbers is planned for this year's event,
and a warning not to bring weapons has been issued after knives and BB
guns were seized last year.
There has also been controversy within the Gypsy community,
with many complaining that police had blocked off some lay-bys to
prevent them stopping off at non-designated areas.
A Facebook page called Save the Appleby Horse Fair was set up,
attracting more than 2,800 members with many posts accusing the
authorities of racism towards Gypsies.
The committee which runs the fair - consisting of police, the
council, the Gypsy groups and the emergency services - has rejected
these claims.
Kevin Douglas, the chairman of the committee, said: "A lot of
incorrect information has been bandied about concerning Appleby Fair
this year.
"Our work is not about closing the Fair down, but returning it
to its traditional origins and balancing the needs of Gypsies and
travellers and the settled community."
Mr Welch, who also sits on the organising committee, said:
"This is the last major fair left in the world for Gypsies. It is vital
for our culture.
"It is not just a place to meet and trade, but a place to make
friends and for young people to court - husbands meet wives at this
fair.
"It is about a sense of place for us, a sense of belonging.
Every Gypsy in the world comes to Appleby at least once in their
lifetime."
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Horse passport advice for Appleby Fair traders
The annual event is one of the largest of its kind
in Europe
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Traders visiting the Appleby Horse Fair
2010 are urged to obtain a Horse Passport. Animal Health and
Welfare Inspectors from Trading Standards will be raising awareness of
the Horse Passport Regulations during the fair in June. When a
horse is sold the passport, which identifies the animal and proves
ownership, is given to the new owner. The fair is an annual
gathering of Gypsies and travellers in Eden Valley. The 2010 fair runs
from 3 to 9 June. Organisers say horses at or on
their way to Appleby, one of the largest events of its kind in Europe,
must be accompanied by their passport. New rules introduced from 1
July 2009 mean all foals born after that date, and any horses that have
not previously been issued with a passport, must also be micro-chipped.
Organisers have warned any horse found straying at the fair, or
taken into possession by the police, will be difficult to return to its
owner if they do not have a passport as it is a definitive proof of
ownership. Proving ownership Organisers have also
reminded owners that it is an offence to cause unnecessary suffering to
any animal. They say animals can only be transported if they are
fit for their intended journey and the vehicle used is constructed in a
way that will not cause injury or suffering. Graham Winder, lead
officer for animal health and welfare at Cumbria County Council's
Trading Standards, said: "Horse owners have a duty to the animal to make
sure it is registered and has a passport. People who don't do this are
leaving themselves vulnerable to proving ownership. "I would urge
all people at the fair, whether they own a horse or are thinking of
buying one that they don't buy or sell one without a passport." |
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Appleby Horse Fair not under threat, say organisers
By Thom Kennedy
Last updated at 15:43, Friday, 21 May 2010
Organisers of
Appleby Horse Fair have moved to quash an internet campaign speculating
that the historic event is under threat.
Billy
Welch
A Facebook group was set up last week raising concerns
about stopping points en route to the fair being blocked off, under the
name Save Appleby Fair.
It led to some of the 2,250 members of the group speculating that the
centuries-old fair could be closed down in the coming years.
Now Billy Welch, a spokesman for the gypsy and traveller community,
has publicly stated that the multi agency strategic co-ordinating group
which organises the fair had no plans to shut it down. He said: “I
attend all the meetings about the Fair and if the rest of the gypsy and
traveller community could see how passionate the co-ordinating group
are about preserving the Fair, they would ignore all of these rumours
which are going about.
“The measures being introduced are common sense, but there will be
the odd occasion when someone has a genuine complaint and if so let me
know. I have 100 per cent confidence in the multi-agency group and will
continue to be a part of it and monitor what is being done. There is no
hidden agenda to end Appleby Fair – these rumours are complete
nonsense.”
He added: “The group is working very hard to preserve, protect and
improve the Fair. It isn’t just about gypsies and travellers, it is also
about the settled community.”
Kevin Douglas, chair of the group, added that gypsies and travellers
heading to Eden were not being prevented from stopping in lay-bys, and
that restrictions had only been put in place where problems had arisen
in 2009.
The group provides skips and toilets at its designated stopping
points around the Eden and South Lakeland districts of Cumbria.
Travellers have been warned they will not be allowed onto Fair Hill
until 4am on June 3, the day the fair starts, and may not camp within
1.5 miles of the fair until that time.
Meanwhile, police forces in Cumbria and County Durham have urged
drivers to take care on the roads ahead of the annual fair. In the
build-up to the event, which this year runs from June 3 to 9, some
single carriageway roads, including parts of the A66, can suffer from
tailbacks of traffic behind horse-drawn bow-top caravans.
Steve Bishop, A66 route manager for the Highways Agency said:
“Despite the use of special warning signs and speed enforcement,
tragically since June 2003 there have been two fatal and one serious
injury collision involving horse drawn caravans on the A66 travelling to
and from the Fair. It is paramount that motorists take special care due
to the presence of slow moving vehicles.”
Extra signs will be put up alongside the A66 to minimise danger for
drivers, and increased patrols and traffic officers will be stationed on
the cross-country route.
First published at 14:18, Friday, 21 May 2010
Published by http://www.cumberlandnews.co.uk
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Appleby Fair travellers settling in at new Sedbergh
campsite
9:50pm Wednesday 26th May 2010
A NEW campsite at Sedbergh for gipsies and travellers to use en route
to Appleby Horse Fair has been hailed a success by the travelling
community.
A farmer’s field at Scrogg Bank, on the A683, opened for the first
time on Monday and is filling up fast with families, their caravans and
horses.
This is the newest of the four ‘managed campsites’ set up by the Multi
Agency Strategic Co-ordinating Group, the organisation that oversees
the fair.
The field can accommodate up to 65 caravans and has portable toilets
and a skip.
South Lakeland District Council’s environmental health officer has
also been handing out black bin liners for the travellers’ rubbish.
Police and South Lakeland District Council said the new campsite
should reduce anti-social behaviour and disorder which local residents
claim blighted their lives last year.
“Last year we had 68 calls to the police from residents over four
weeks during the fair,” said PC Roly Earl.
“There were horses running on the road, caravans blocking driveways
and fly-tipping, so the designated campsite is a justified reaction.
“The gipsies and travellers are surprised at how pleasant the site is
and the facilities we have provided for them.
"It is a change for them, as last year they were camping on the grass
verges, but this is much safer and the feedback I’ve had has been very
positive.”
Traveller Janet Wilson, who arrived at the site on Monday, said: “The
kids weren’t safe last year. It’s a good do this, it’s great.
"We all went mad when we heard we’d have to stay in here, but as it
turns out it’s good.”
Billy Wilson, from West Yorkshire, said: “There’s no complaints from
me.
"The police and council have been very nice, handing out bin bags and
trying to help us, so we’re happy. This is a nice campsite we’ve got
here.”
Police have also announced a zero tolerance approach to violence and
disorder at this year’s fair, after a high number of weapons were seized
last year.
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Seems like the giorga gets some things right? nice to see both sides getting on and shows that the non gypsy side to go out of their way to accomadate after all most non gypsies going would have booked in advance into camp sites or b&b and have to pay as they would anywhere they visit and yet we make special arrangements and often for free for the travelling community so I think they should apreciaate abit more when we get it right and they get services for free and the gorga dont kick up a stink about it unlike if the shoe was on the other foot!! |
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Hi,
First of all let me say what a brilliant website you have. It''s well
presented, provides clear and well researched information and is
generally very interesting - well done!
Now to my point - I wonder if you might be able to help me! I''m a
freelance photographer and I''ve been commissioned by the BBC to an
''audio slideshow'' for their website about the Appleby Horse Fair in
Cumbria. I''d like to get a ''behind the scenes'' look at the fair and
meet some people who would be happy to be interviewed and photographed
and might be able to show me around the fair. The slideshow would aim
to represent the horse fair and its participants in a positive light - a
traditional way of life that is dynamic and thriving in an ever
changing world. Ideally I would like to do a "day in the life" type
piece, perhaps follow someone around for a day with their horse,
possibly looking for a buyer, that kind of thing. If you know anyone
that I could get in touch with that could help me, I would be very
grateful for your assistance.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Steve
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Gypsies travel to Appleby 'Mecca' in Cumbria
Page last updated at 2:17
GMT, Friday, 4 June 2010 3:17 UK
By Lee Morgan
BBC News
The Appleby Horse Fair has drawn Gypsies and travellers to Cumbria
since 1685
Beside a convoy of cars,
caravans and horse boxes, a Roma Gypsy and his family are gathering wood
for a campfire to cook their morning meal.
Billy Welch, 49, has pulled over on his way to the Appleby
Horse Fair in Cumbria, which opened on Thursday.
"When you arrive in Appleby and see the mountains, the scenery
in the background, you feel closer to God," he said.
"It's a sacred place to the travelling community. Like Mecca is
to Islam, that's what Appleby is to us."
The event has taken place since 1685 and last year it attracted
more than 40,000 visitors, transforming a town that has a population of
just 2,500.
Hundreds of horses and carts traditionally line the streets and
wade in the River Eden while a temporary caravan site overlooking the
town is set up on Fair Hill.
Continue
reading the main story
- The event runs from 3-10 June
- Appleby has a population of 2,500
- 40,000 visitors are expected
- 1,500 caravans and horse-drawn vehicles are predicted
Gypsy travellers come from around the world to socialise and
trade during the event.
Traditional activities include cart racing and dunking - which
involves horses heads being dipped into the river before being returned
to dry land and put on sale.
But the event has not been without controversy in recent years.
At last year's fair a mass brawl resulted in 27 arrests and
police seized counterfeit goods with a street value of £250,000.
Some residents complained about vandalism, barn break-ins,
illegal grazing and intimidation by visitors.
Mr Welch, who first attended the fair aged two months, blamed
problems in previous years on a "small minority of trouble causers".
The event, which is expected to peak on Sunday, provides the
local economy with what a county council spokesman described as a
"considerable boost".
Despite this, there have been complaints from local people.
Fair 'mayhem'
Jonathan Bell, 18, a student who works at a grocery store in
the town centre, said: "Me and my mates don't go into town because
there's normally drunken fights, and it can be intimidating."
He added: "It will be absolute gridlock on the roads, which is a
bit of a nuisance, but on the plus side I will be getting lots of
overtime because of how busy it is."
There is an increased police presence at this year's event
He said that some Appleby residents had been stocking up on
groceries to avoid the town centre during the "mayhem" of the fair.
An increase in police numbers is planned for this year's event,
and a warning not to bring weapons has been issued after knives and BB
guns were seized last year.
There has also been controversy within the Gypsy community,
with many complaining that police had blocked off some lay-bys to
prevent them stopping off at non-designated areas.
A Facebook page called Save the Appleby Horse Fair was set up,
attracting more than 2,800 members with many posts accusing the
authorities of racism towards Gypsies.
The committee which runs the fair - consisting of police, the
council, the Gypsy groups and the emergency services - has rejected
these claims.
Kevin Douglas, the chairman of the committee, said: "A lot of
incorrect information has been bandied about concerning Appleby Fair
this year.
"Our work is not about closing the Fair down, but returning it
to its traditional origins and balancing the needs of Gypsies and
travellers and the settled community."
Mr Welch, who also sits on the organising committee, said:
"This is the last major fair left in the world for Gypsies. It is vital
for our culture.
"It is not just a place to meet and trade, but a place to make
friends and for young people to court - husbands meet wives at this
fair.
"It is about a sense of place for us, a sense of belonging.
Every Gypsy in the world comes to Appleby at least once in their
lifetime."
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Horse passport advice for Appleby Fair traders
The annual event is one of the largest of its kind
in Europe
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Traders visiting the Appleby Horse Fair
2010 are urged to obtain a Horse Passport. Animal Health and
Welfare Inspectors from Trading Standards will be raising awareness of
the Horse Passport Regulations during the fair in June. When a
horse is sold the passport, which identifies the animal and proves
ownership, is given to the new owner. The fair is an annual
gathering of Gypsies and travellers in Eden Valley. The 2010 fair runs
from 3 to 9 June. Organisers say horses at or on
their way to Appleby, one of the largest events of its kind in Europe,
must be accompanied by their passport. New rules introduced from 1
July 2009 mean all foals born after that date, and any horses that have
not previously been issued with a passport, must also be micro-chipped.
Organisers have warned any horse found straying at the fair, or
taken into possession by the police, will be difficult to return to its
owner if they do not have a passport as it is a definitive proof of
ownership. Proving ownership Organisers have also
reminded owners that it is an offence to cause unnecessary suffering to
any animal. They say animals can only be transported if they are
fit for their intended journey and the vehicle used is constructed in a
way that will not cause injury or suffering. Graham Winder, lead
officer for animal health and welfare at Cumbria County Council's
Trading Standards, said: "Horse owners have a duty to the animal to make
sure it is registered and has a passport. People who don't do this are
leaving themselves vulnerable to proving ownership. "I would urge
all people at the fair, whether they own a horse or are thinking of
buying one that they don't buy or sell one without a passport." |
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Appleby Horse Fair not under threat, say organisers
By Thom Kennedy
Last updated at 15:43, Friday, 21 May 2010
Organisers of
Appleby Horse Fair have moved to quash an internet campaign speculating
that the historic event is under threat.
Billy
Welch
A Facebook group was set up last week raising concerns
about stopping points en route to the fair being blocked off, under the
name Save Appleby Fair.
It led to some of the 2,250 members of the group speculating that the
centuries-old fair could be closed down in the coming years.
Now Billy Welch, a spokesman for the gypsy and traveller community,
has publicly stated that the multi agency strategic co-ordinating group
which organises the fair had no plans to shut it down. He said: “I
attend all the meetings about the Fair and if the rest of the gypsy and
traveller community could see how passionate the co-ordinating group
are about preserving the Fair, they would ignore all of these rumours
which are going about.
“The measures being introduced are common sense, but there will be
the odd occasion when someone has a genuine complaint and if so let me
know. I have 100 per cent confidence in the multi-agency group and will
continue to be a part of it and monitor what is being done. There is no
hidden agenda to end Appleby Fair – these rumours are complete
nonsense.”
He added: “The group is working very hard to preserve, protect and
improve the Fair. It isn’t just about gypsies and travellers, it is also
about the settled community.”
Kevin Douglas, chair of the group, added that gypsies and travellers
heading to Eden were not being prevented from stopping in lay-bys, and
that restrictions had only been put in place where problems had arisen
in 2009.
The group provides skips and toilets at its designated stopping
points around the Eden and South Lakeland districts of Cumbria.
Travellers have been warned they will not be allowed onto Fair Hill
until 4am on June 3, the day the fair starts, and may not camp within
1.5 miles of the fair until that time.
Meanwhile, police forces in Cumbria and County Durham have urged
drivers to take care on the roads ahead of the annual fair. In the
build-up to the event, which this year runs from June 3 to 9, some
single carriageway roads, including parts of the A66, can suffer from
tailbacks of traffic behind horse-drawn bow-top caravans.
Steve Bishop, A66 route manager for the Highways Agency said:
“Despite the use of special warning signs and speed enforcement,
tragically since June 2003 there have been two fatal and one serious
injury collision involving horse drawn caravans on the A66 travelling to
and from the Fair. It is paramount that motorists take special care due
to the presence of slow moving vehicles.”
Extra signs will be put up alongside the A66 to minimise danger for
drivers, and increased patrols and traffic officers will be stationed on
the cross-country route.
First published at 14:18, Friday, 21 May 2010
Published by http://www.cumberlandnews.co.uk
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Appleby Fair travellers settling in at new Sedbergh
campsite
9:50pm Wednesday 26th May 2010
A NEW campsite at Sedbergh for gipsies and travellers to use en route
to Appleby Horse Fair has been hailed a success by the travelling
community.
A farmer’s field at Scrogg Bank, on the A683, opened for the first
time on Monday and is filling up fast with families, their caravans and
horses.
This is the newest of the four ‘managed campsites’ set up by the Multi
Agency Strategic Co-ordinating Group, the organisation that oversees
the fair.
The field can accommodate up to 65 caravans and has portable toilets
and a skip.
South Lakeland District Council’s environmental health officer has
also been handing out black bin liners for the travellers’ rubbish.
Police and South Lakeland District Council said the new campsite
should reduce anti-social behaviour and disorder which local residents
claim blighted their lives last year.
“Last year we had 68 calls to the police from residents over four
weeks during the fair,” said PC Roly Earl.
“There were horses running on the road, caravans blocking driveways
and fly-tipping, so the designated campsite is a justified reaction.
“The gipsies and travellers are surprised at how pleasant the site is
and the facilities we have provided for them.
"It is a change for them, as last year they were camping on the grass
verges, but this is much safer and the feedback I’ve had has been very
positive.”
Traveller Janet Wilson, who arrived at the site on Monday, said: “The
kids weren’t safe last year. It’s a good do this, it’s great.
"We all went mad when we heard we’d have to stay in here, but as it
turns out it’s good.”
Billy Wilson, from West Yorkshire, said: “There’s no complaints from
me.
"The police and council have been very nice, handing out bin bags and
trying to help us, so we’re happy. This is a nice campsite we’ve got
here.”
Police have also announced a zero tolerance approach to violence and
disorder at this year’s fair, after a high number of weapons were seized
last year.
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Seems like the giorga gets some things right? nice to see both sides getting on and shows that the non gypsy side to go out of their way to accomadate after all most non gypsies going would have booked in advance into camp sites or b&b and have to pay as they would anywhere they visit and yet we make special arrangements and often for free for the travelling community so I think they should apreciaate abit more when we get it right and they get services for free and the gorga dont kick up a stink about it unlike if the shoe was on the other foot!! |
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